I think any dutchie can vouch that iDeal has been amazing. I would also like to add that Wise has been amazing for american payments. I needed it for Anthropic at the time, and this worked good enough

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DonHopkins 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Certainly better and easier to say than Chipknip!

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jeroenhd 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Funnily enough, the ECB's Digital Euro initiative has a lot in common with the chipknip, except you can now also charge your wallet with larger amounts of money.

	▲	DonHopkins 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Chipknip has the mouth feel of Gnip Gnop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX2bqI--c-k

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beng-nl 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

RIP chipknip. But let’s appreciate its ambition: electronic payments without being online.