| ▲ | j2kun 4 hours ago |
| Building a tool that tries (and probably fails) to remove the watermark (due to the arms race that large corporate machines will win) is tacitly accepting the barcode. The hacker ethos should be, first and foremost, to run open source models locally without relying on a corporation. |
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| ▲ | transcriptase an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| >due to the arms race that large corporate machines will win Much like how the entirety of Hollywood, book publishers, academic publishers, and game developers have won against piracy despite being some of the largest corps on earth and dedicating untold billions to the issue over the past 30 years? |
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| ▲ | blanched an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | They won the long game. Everything is rented and DRM now. Very little of what most people buy digitally is truly owned. | |
| ▲ | PostOnce 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They have a finite # of employees, a finite budget, and a finite amount of time. Hobbyists do not. ROI is not a factor. | | |
| ▲ | pixl97 35 minutes ago | parent [-] | | As yes, the hobbyist built nuclear weapons program..... Legalize recreational plutonium. | | |
| ▲ | cmxch 4 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | You don’t happen to know a certain Doc Brown? | |
| ▲ | tempest_ 32 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | To be fair the state works pretty hard to crush "hobbyist" nuclear weapons programs so you don't really know how far it could get. | | |
| ▲ | fc417fc802 11 minutes ago | parent [-] | | By the time you're building (or buying) the necessary highly esoteric and expensive ultracentrifuge setup I think you would be well outside the realm of "hobbyist" unless someone insists on the most unreasonably pedantic definition for the term. Unless we're only considering final assembly. Just gotta get that weapons grade fissile material supplier lined up. That might or might not qualify as rich hobbyist territory depending on how high a price tag is permissible. |
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| ▲ | UqWBcuFx6NV4r 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What? Some nerds on private trackers and kids on 123movies or whatever is not piracy winning by any material stretch. | |
| ▲ | SecretDreams an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes. Winning against piracy doesn't mean you completely eliminate piracy. It means you scare enough people into not doing it and make it a bit harder to do for others. Losing to piracy would see companies like Netflix and Spotify not thriving. | | |
| ▲ | fc417fc802 8 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > It means you scare enough people into not doing it and make it a bit harder to do for others. By which definition they utterly failed. > Losing to piracy would see companies like Netflix and Spotify not thriving. Not at all. Netflix and Spotify do well because they are a good value proposition for the average customer. Piracy is free at point of "purchase" but is (and always has been) expensive in terms of various sorts of overhead. |
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| ▲ | akersten 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > [fighting against the system] is tacitly accepting the barcode. I don't really see it. I think it's important to win on both fronts. |
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| ▲ | gpt5 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Especially as the open weight models are really generated by corporates, and they could stop releasing them at any time. | | |
| ▲ | singpolyma3 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | But we'd still have them. It's not like we're gaining much with new training anymore anyway | | | |
| ▲ | kridsdale1 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | They also have built in dystopian government authority enforcement in them unless you go to pains to sever those neurons. |
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| ▲ | huflungdung 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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