These are great improvements, it's good to see Apple investing in improvements like this (especially with the Vision Pro) but I can't help but feel that they utility will remain very low until they make the Vision Pro look significantly less distopian than it does.

The form-factor is a significant issue for real-world usage, and it's kind of unclear if there is a plan for a future product line given its (pretty abysmal) initial receiption.

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brokencode 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I don’t think abysmal is the right word. The hardware was widely praised except for being dorky looking and a few other complaints.

The price and lack of content and developer interest have been the main problems.

And ultimately, people just don’t seem that interested in this product category. Meta ran into the same issue, though at least they targeted gaming where there is a decent niche.

VR/AR tech seems cool and futuristic, but hasn’t quite found its killer app yet.

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bigyabai 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Meta did sell over 20 million headsets. The Quest is definitely lower-margin hardware than Vision Pro, but in terms of install base that's an order of magnitude larger audience.

Apple really screwed themselves by only supporting WebXR for cross-platform VR experiences. Soon Valve will ship the Steam Frame, which will likely cost a fraction of the Vision Pro and support bog-standard PC games like H3VR, flight simulators and flatscreen PC titles. Meanwhile, AVP owners will have paid $3,500 for a more powerful chip/headset with a fraction of the content library and featureset that Valve and Meta offer. Vision Pro's lack of audience is entirely a self-imposed failure, it seems.

	▲	brokencode an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah, the gaming market is a decent sized market. It’s not huge, though, and is not growing very fast. It was a strategic mistake for Apple to not focus on gaming. But realistically, the AVP was always going to be way too expensive for basically anything. Maybe if you could pick one up for like $800 and there was a lot of great 3D immersive content, it could take off. But even then, I feel like it’s just not a product category the average person is that excited about.