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dylan604 2 hours ago

> It's all the same capital and resources that prior administrations had.

Is it? Depending on how far back into "prior administrations" you go, the modern US Navy is a shadow of itself.

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runako an hour ago | parent [-]

This leads to an interesting thought experiment.

Using conventional weapons only, what prior year's US Navy could beat the 2026 US Navy in combat?

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gpm 20 minutes ago | parent [-]

That doesn't seem like the relevant question. A navy barely progressing as the technology progresses by leaps and bounds is just as problematic when you're measuring its strength compared to its adversaries.

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phil21 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It's both a shadow of it's former self, as well as being optimized for force projection vs. freedom of navigation/securing free trade.

It's probably even more powerful than peak cold war/WWII US Navy at force projection while adjusting for technology and adversary capability. Cruise missiles, much more capable aircraft, larger carriers, etc.

At securing the high seas or forcing open trade routes? Just the sheer loss in number of deployable warships available to surge into an area is nowhere comparable. That and logistical capability is nearly nonexistent and relies mostly on nearby basing vs. tankering/supply ships. Not to mention a much larger Merchant Marine they used to be able to fall back on. There simply is not the ability for sustained operations at sea at any scale any longer, even if you had unlimited munitions to expend.

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runako 13 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Separate discussion. I'm addressing the comment that the US Navy of today is a shadow of its former self.

	▲	gpm 6 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		No, the same discussion. It's fair to say the British navy is a shadow of the former British navy that more or less conquered the world. It's also obvious the current one with an aircraft carrier would beat the former one with wooden ships and cannons. The same applies to the US navy even when the difference is the quality and quantity of integrated circuits and not the difference between a telescope and radar.