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vessenes 6 hours ago

That would be nice, but it's not going to be possible.

Any open benchmark has a very short life, since it will be pulled in and DPO / RL trained quickly for benchmaxxing purposes. So, you'll need a private test to have a hope of something fair. (These also get leaked over time, btw, so even then there's a window of usability).

These are expensive to run.

Now consider that there might be 15-20 viable quants for a given open model release; someone would have to want to pay for these private evals to be run on them. Even then, a good read through unsloth's commits and blog posts will remind you that there's quite a lot of engineering work to be done to get model inference working properly, even for models released by frontier or near-frontier labs. So, you'd want to make sure that you have a replicable 'best engineered' deployment to evaluate, or at least one that's closest to your hardware and fits the bill.

Upshot - it's much faster to download and try out a model, and possibly cheaper too. Well, cheaper since hugging face is paying the bandwidth bills.

cyanydeez 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

there are benchmarks that have nothing to do with the training material, but with how the models are capable of things like reading code: https://needle-bench.cc/

Generally, you give them a document and you ask them to retrieve some subsection of the document then rate them on what they retrieved.

You can always find enough random documents, or create your own, to always run these and you can make it arbitrarily long. It's definitely a valid non-maxxable context test.