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| ▲ | skrebbel 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| This is never going to work. Sufficiently many of these people are going to find maintainers' home addresses and send them death threats and the likes. If you see how badly some people flip out just because their PR is rejected, it's going to be much much worse if their PR is rejected and their money is taken. |
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| ▲ | rglullis an hour ago | parent [-] | | Ok. If I'm the maintainer receiving death threats over that, I'd tell them they would get the $10 dollars back, plus some extra money for their troubles. Location of the envelope with the money: the same police station where I'd reported the death threats. |
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| ▲ | rtdq 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The worst case is that someone loses out on $10, no? How does this work if the maintainer is the swindler? |
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| ▲ | smaudet 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't think that is a (very realistic) concern. AI is slop, the problem is not that the real contributors are struggling to get PRs merged. The bigger issue being, raising the bar to students who may have otherwise had productive careers (but education is a general issue, where the students don't even yet recognize they are being scammed). | | |
| ▲ | rtdq 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't follow, and I'd be concerned that this opens up a cottage industry of bots generating plausible looking repositories that unwitting contributors would attempt to contribute to. We already know that bots are astroturfing repos to generate overinflated star counts. I'd say the least crap option here is to honeypot PR contributions from bots | | |
| ▲ | smaudet 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | This feels like bot logic, lol. Unless the contributors don't care about the repos they contribute to, this is not a likely scenario. AI doesn't care. We do. | | |
| ▲ | rtdq 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | What is bot logic exactly? You keep describing this as not a likely or realistic scenario. But why is the likelihood even of relevance here? The way to avoid the worst case i.e scammed of your money, is to not even put it on the table in the first place. | | |
| ▲ | smaudet 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > What is bot logic exactly? Ill thought out logic like your own. I think you are likely a bot at this point. It's not likely, because that's not something that people are likely to do. Only a bot like yourself with a poor model of the world will do this type of thing. It will be amusing to see the AI bots trying to run the scam you are describing and then nobody will contribute to the fake projects... except other fake AI contributors. | | |
| ▲ | rtdq 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Dude, you're claiming that there's no likelihood of people getting swindled out of their money by handing it over to strangers. So your reaction is to play the bot card? We're done. You're clearly not arguing in good faith here. | | |
| ▲ | rglullis an hour ago | parent [-] | | > people getting swindled out of their money by handing it over to strangers. I think that OP is trying to say is that there is very little reason for a human to go through the trouble of contributing to a "plausible looking fake repo". To get to the point that a repo starts to attract interest from other contributors, that project needs to have actual utility. Who in their right mind would jump into opening a PR from projects they never used? And if the project does get used to the point that it attracts people interested in contribute to improve it, wouldn't it mean that we've achieved https://xkcd.com/810 ? |
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| ▲ | godelski 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| So I pay $10 when your bot fucks up? That's called theft. And for what, one banana? |
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| ▲ | rglullis 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Obviously, the triage should be done by a human and not automated. | | |
| ▲ | godelski 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Doesn't that put us into the same position? Let's also be realistic, everything that can be automated will. Even if that thing is worse off for it. There's a clear historic pattern of this. Companies and people love to be penny wise and pound foolish. | | |
| ▲ | rglullis 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Doesn't that put us into the same position? Of course not, because the number of low-quality PRs with $10 attached to it will be lower than whatever number of PRs are being created now. |
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