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roxolotl 4 hours ago

What does this mean?

> It's a different kind of tool doing a different kind of work, and that makes a clean apples-to-apples comparison to earlier models difficult.

They claim it’s a different kind of tool and then describe using it the same way you’d use any other model. This really felt way worse than the average Cloudflare blog and really just rehashed the Mythos announcement which had already called out the key parts being chaining and crafting examples.

JeremyNT an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> They claim it’s a different kind of tool and then describe using it the same way you’d use any other model. This really felt way worse than the average Cloudflare blog and really just rehashed the Mythos announcement which had already called out the key parts being chaining and crafting examples.

Hah, I was trying to parse this too.

Charitably perhaps they're being vague on exactly what's different because they're still under NDA.

__natty__ 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sounds different because it’s hidden advertisement not a regular blog post

grim_io 4 hours ago | parent [-]

But why would cloudflare advertise Anthropic? They are competing with Anthropic by hosting open weights models.

Someone1234 4 hours ago | parent [-]

https://www.cloudflare.com/press/press-releases/2025/cloudfl...

hdndjsbbs 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It's circular financing. It's a circlejerk. It's a circular financing jerk.

password4321 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> way worse than the average Cloudflare blog

How long has it been since you took your average? Lately all Cloudflare output has been heavily AI'd.

eikenberry 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My guess is because it is a model trained specifically for security/hacking. So comparing it to Opus, trained for chat/code/etc., is apples-to-oranges.

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It is not, that's what surprised Anthropic employees too.

smusamashah 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

'Its not X, its Y' is also a common LLM trope.

FergusArgyll 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think what they might mean is:

Because of it's capabilities, a new kind of harness can be built for it, thus the entire system (model + harness) is a different kind of tool than say Claude code

Xirdus 4 hours ago | parent [-]

But did they build this different harness? And are they sure other models can't cope with it?

roxolotl 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Right I expected the piece to transition into “and here’s how we built a whole new thing for it” but it never did.

jascha_eng 2 hours ago | parent [-]

They kind of have a little diagram explaining the steps I imagine every single step in that to basically be it's own Claude code session.