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dist-epoch 20 hours ago

It will literally eat the world. Just like we crowded out wild animals in a few reserved areas, so will AI data centers crowd us out.

To quite Ilya Sutskever:

> I think it’s pretty likely the entire surface of the earth will be covered with solar panels and data centers.

zx0r23 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Or we could not do that...

Technology is meant to serve us not drive us into a hellscape lol

siwatanejo 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What's wrong with that? There are now materials that allow you to have solar panels on a window (so they are not opaque anymore), and we can put data centers under our feet.

zx0r23 17 hours ago | parent [-]

Did you read the original comment?

> AI data centers crowd us out.

> the entire surface of the earth will be covered with solar panels and data centers.

siwatanejo 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, so our buildings' windows will be solar panels, what's wrong with that? And all our floors can be data centers, what's wrong with that?

asdff 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> the entire surface of the earth will be covered with solar panels and data centers.

nathan_compton 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In the current system technology is meant to serve the shareholders. That might end up serving us, if you believe the standard narrative. But maybe the shareholders will just carve out a few nature reserves for themselves and just wait for the rest of us to die off.

zx0r23 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Time for a new system then!

leptons 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"we"? Are we all now billionaires who decide what gets built and who gets laid off?

None of "us" gets to decide this. Only the very wealthy get to decide.

zx0r23 17 hours ago | parent [-]

There's a way for us to have a say in the matter. It's happened before.

leptons 17 hours ago | parent [-]

Okay, what way? What happened before?

Don't be vague.

wao0uuno 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Stop acting dumb. That person is obviously talking about a revolution.

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ern_ave 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> AI data centers crowd us out.

Here's a test to know if this is/will be true: look for a situation where the "needs" of AI (e.g. land, electricity, etc) conflict with the needs of people (e.g. land to live on, grow food on, electricity to light our homes).

Find a place where the needs of AI conflict with people, and observe who wins out.

Does the entity that owns the datacenter say, "oh sorry! I guess we're using too much electricity. No worries! We'll stop doing that" ...or does it say, "lol too bad, all the electricity belongs to us!"

Does the entity wanting to build a datacenter say, "oh sorry! We thought you'd be okay with us using this land. But if you're not that's okay, we wont build here" ...or does it say, "lol too bad, we own the government and they're seizing the land under eminent domain!"

(both of these scenarios have happened, btw)

hansmayer 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> To quite Ilya Sutskever:

Who made Ilya Sutskever, or any other LLM-bonehead the Grand Prophet of Humanity? Why the fuck is his opinion on that relevant? Of course he will shill for data centers.

dist-epoch 18 hours ago | parent [-]

when someone gives their opinion about AI, one typical retort is "are you an AI/LLM expert? we should let the experts talk"

andriy_koval 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The issue is that field moves so fast, that yesterday's experts are not so experts today.

zx0r23 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The so-called experts are bought and paid for.