People are not upset because "Level 1" was taken away from them.

For artists and creatives, _all levels_ have been taken away. And for most, their very basic needs (i.e. income) are being taken away.

And all that, just so we can get past "level 1"? Not even "level 4"? What kind of trade off is that??

We're supposed to be engineers. We spend days/weeks discussing how a table should be designed so it doesn't bite us in 6 months time. Yet here we are discarding almost _everything_ just to make "level 1" a little bit more convenient.

It's pathetic.

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itomato 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you’re an artist and you feel like your audience was stolen by AI slop, you didn’t have a real audience and you aren’t a real artist.

Go suffer until something good happens in your fingers.

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tim-projects an hour ago | parent [-]

I agree with you, but at the same time I went to university to study music production when Napster just came out. That decimated the music industry forever and I dropped out because I realised I'd made a bad move.

I can totally see how ai could do the same thing to all sorts of art industries that have not had their Napster moment yet.

	▲	bayindirh an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I can argue that the music industry is decimated not directly by Napster, but their practices and dogmas set ground for it. For me, even as a broke student "Free!" was not the charm, but "accessibility". I made music, played in orchestras. I know the effort required, and never wanted to steal livelihoods from people, but music before Napster was inaccessible. Some free radios, expensive CDs and cheap cassettes with bad sound quality. It was impossible to explore and listen a broad spectrum of music. Now I can try and buy albums. Yes, the publishers still earn way more than the musician, but it didn't start with Napster. It was still like that before Napster. FWIW, I bought and still buy music rather than streaming it, I'd happily continue doing so. I just want DRM-Free high quality music to listen on various devices of mine, that's all.

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b65e8bee43c2ed0 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

learn to ~~code~~ weld.

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bayindirh 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Which doesn't solve or invalidate any of the OP's points.

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b65e8bee43c2ed0 2 hours ago | parent [-]

yes, I didn't feel like addressing the "point" that creatives are higher order beings that must be shielded from harm by everyone else. everyone else's jobs are being automated by machines and computers, outsourced to the third world, and undercut by legal and illegal immigrants. had been for decades. that was fine, this is fine also.

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bayindirh an hour ago | parent [-]

Creatives are not higher order beings. They are human. The thing is, we shouldn't stone creatives for being vocal, instead we should join them and try to protect our dignity and human side rather than accepting what's being forced upon us.

Being creative is a different mindset, and is very different from just sitting in front of a computer, bashing keys and doing well-defined things. In fact, high quality software engineering is a kind of creativity, too. Needs raw and real brain power, blood, sweat and tears to accomplish in a high quality manner.

This is what enshittification of everything looks like. Belittling any human being trying to build something genuine with their sincere effort. Instead, we accept the whiplash. "More code, faster!", "Minimize time to market!", "Milk the user as much as you can, we need the monies!", "Masters demand growth, demand monies!". For what? We shall receive a liveable life. Instead we accept when the demand is collectively rowing boats as slaves, lulling ourselves "at least we are alive".

Everything can be done in a better and dignified manner for all parties, but it doesn't generate money. The money you won't be able to spend, take to your next life, or afterlife for that manner.

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b65e8bee43c2ed0 an hour ago | parent [-]

or they could just learn to weld.

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bayindirh an hour ago | parent [-]

Be first, show us the way. Be the leader of the rebirth of human dignity through welding.

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b65e8bee43c2ed0 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

yes, if I ever lose my job to an emerging technology, I will simply find another occupation instead of demanding the reality to bend to my will and that technology to be banned, outlawed, regulated out of existence. unlike the bohemian types, I do not consider myself to deserve some kind of affirmative action bullshit made just for me.

	▲	bayindirh 30 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		You're missing the forest by assuming "people who think they're unique are complaining for themselves about how technology makes them uncomfortable". But more power to you and your welder.