Right.

So how long do we have to wait? The reality is the actual output doesn’t match the hype at all.

Software engineers should be getting laid off all over the place, there should be a decrease in hiring period. This is not what’s happening.

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user34283 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Let's see at the end of the year how that went with the supposedly disappointing actual output and no layoffs.

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grey-area 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sure, let’s see. So far there is nothing to justify the hype, and there is a lot of money and hype around this, and a lot of fervent true believers.

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seszett an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> People on here talk like it was some belief or suggest I am somehow profiting from "hyping" AI.

Not really, the "people on here" rather consider that Anthropic and co. are profiting from you by making you think it's better to give them money to develop your app rather than do it yourself or hire a developer. The hype is there to steer you towards AI.

20 hours a week must be quite expensive in tokens.

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user34283 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I am working like 20 hours a week on my new iOS app with Codex.

People on here talk like it was some belief or suggest I am somehow profiting from "hyping" AI.

Is it so hard to believe that agentic coding now works? Engineers are taking it up left and right.

Edit with reply: I can't, because the app is still in the works. Also my HN account is again rate limited and I won't be able to post more comments.

Edit number two to the other comment:

It's not really that expensive. With Anthropic it would be $200, with Codex the $100 subscription is sufficient.

It is interesting phrasing when you say that the providers "are making me think" the use of their service would be better, rather than me reaching this conclusion myself after using their services extensively for my work.

And honestly, I think I've had it with HN. I can't even participate properly in the discussion, maybe because some moderator thought my comments and opinions unworthy again.

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throwaway2037 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Can you share a link to your app?

	▲	philote an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I recently had a coworker open my eyes to why vibe coding, or AI-assisted coding is so popular. He likened it to a slot machine, where pulling the slot's arm is like asking an LLM to code something. You get crap most of the time, but when it works, it's like getting a payout. That dopamine hit keeps them pulling, hoping for another hit, and they then believe it's a better way to develop software.

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hypeatei 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Companies are forward looking, they wouldn't wait until the end of the year if LLMs were truly as disruptive as AI believers are saying.

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lomase 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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Traubenfuchs 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

...and ultra high velocity single human person agent swarm vibe coded replacements for existing software and SaaS should come out en masse. Where are they?

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user34283 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I understand Codex had 500k weekly users at the beginning of the year, now they have 4M.

GPT 5.4 came out at the start of March, GPT 5.5 end of April.

What do you expect, that we all go to market with a Photoshop competitor within two months?

Edit: and I can't provide any more replies since once again some automatic system or a mod rate limited my account for whatever reason.

	▲	1dom 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You seem to be arguing that vibecoding photoshop wasn't possible up until 2 months ago, with GPT 5.4/5.5. That's a very, very weird take on many, many levels. Could you elaborate a bit about where that view came from, how often you use AI, what's your career etc.?

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sieiw 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In b4 agents have been shit up until a month ago. There hasn’t been much time yet!!

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user34283 2 hours ago | parent [-]

This is pretty much true.

Before Codex with GPT 5.4 and 5.5 I was working on a single feature only, no parallel conversations, and a ton of permission prompts would make it impossible for the agent to even work for five minutes on its own.

Times have changed.

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sieiw 2 hours ago | parent [-]

People like you write a whole lot.

Talk about the numbers.

Cost reduction and revenue generation.

Anything else irrelevant - nobody cares. The world is about making money and moving things forward.

	▲	user34283 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I hope to publish my app in a month or two, after sufficient polish, market research, and App Store optimization. As I said, it's not exactly realistic to ask for numbers and a Photoshop competitor within two months.
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