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muglug 2 hours ago

I’m reasonably certain that Schmidt anticipated that reaction after the first speaker was booed.

It had the vibe of “These people need to hear the Truth”.

SlinkyOnStairs an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> It had the vibe of “These people need to hear the Truth”.

Schmidt anticipated the response, but does not understand it.

He falls flat on his face here precisely because "needing to hear the truth" is a self-contradiction. The very fact that he has to go around saying 'AI is inevitable, suck it up you live in our world now', proves that it's not true. Nothing that is actually inevitable is declared as such. Nobody goes to say "The sun will rise tomorrow!"

And this failure is pretty serious. The kids (and wider public) instinctively understand this dynamic even if Schmidt doesn't.

No matter how it's phrased, the only thing these kids will hear is "We are ruining your life", "We are taking everything from you".

It's all but inevitable than worryingly soon, some of them will go "Nothing to lose? Bet." and we will see far worse violence than the failed property damage against Sam Altman's house.

raffael_de an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> he very fact that he has to go around saying 'AI is inevitable, suck it up you live in our world now', proves that it's not true.

If somebody visits a flat earther conference and says "you all need to accept the fact that the earth is not flat!" ... then this certainly doesn't prove that the earth is flat. I think you trip over your choice of words. If s/b in general has to go around saying that then your reasoning makes some sense. But if s/b in particular (like Schmidt) has to go around saying sth then this only proves that this particular person has some personal intention or feeling s/he wants to express. I couldn't care less why someone like Schmidt feels like that but I have my ideas. Maybe he just identifies with AI financially and ideologically and likes to provoke.

SlinkyOnStairs 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's not literally him as an individual saying it this once, it's the large amount of it in total.

There's people who go around bothering flat earthers, but despite flat earthers claiming the contrary, they're quite small in number. No mass media effort, no corporate propaganda, no CEOs mentioning all the time.

The largest it ever got were things like the netflix shows. These are pretty illustrative; All of the big attention is not so much on "these people must be convinced of the roundedness of the planet" and more on the dissection of why these people refuse to accept something that is quite easy to prove across a wide variety of otherwise unconnected experiments.

logicchains an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

AI is inevitable in the sense that if a country rejects the development of AI, it'll eventually end up subjugated military by the robots of a country that did invest in AI.

SlinkyOnStairs an hour ago | parent | next [-]

"But the commies will do it" is just an old hat version of what I just described.

And in the specifics of military, it's all nonsense anyway. Reagan pulled it with his dumb space lasers and we ain't got those up there anymore.

The only time it was kind of true was with nuclear weapons between the US and USSR. Both countries very rapidly obtained enough weapons to destroy the other utterly, and were just wasting their money afterwards.

For the smaller states, nuclear weapons have universally been not worth it. The only two "losers" right now are Ukraine and Iran, neither of which would be in the position to use their nuclear weapons had they retained/obtained them.

Anyone who's paid attention to these recent wars has seen the actual military development be lower tech weapons. Cheap drones rather than million dollar missiles.

With regard to "AI weaponry": First, AI weapons are broadly a dumb idea. Second: As mentioned, nuclear weapons exist. AI isn't going to magically stop [insert western country] from obliterating China if China were to send their army of wunderwaffe robots.

knrdev 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

You are not up to date about AI weapons.

March 30, 2026: https://thedefender.media/en/2026/03/fedorov-shared-info-abo...

> At the same time, the team is developing simulation and modelling environments for testing solutions, AI infrastructure for rapid system deployment, and tools that can be immediately integrated into military units.

SlinkyOnStairs 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

The drones are currently one of the major forces in the war. The AI tech is so nondescript that your quote is the entire content in the article you link.

knrdev 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

Drones need operators.

So how are AI weapons a broadly dumb idea?

keybored an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> AI is inevitable in the sense that if a country rejects the development of AI, [AI inevitabilism premise]

gilrain an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Actually, it’s possible other countries don’t have our counterproductively-murderous instincts. You’re looking in a mirror and you fear yourself.

logicchains an hour ago | parent [-]

You're looking in a mirror and seeing somebody who never read a history book. Every single powerful nation that exists today was built upon war and invasion of some groups by other groups.

Mizza 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Eric Schmidt also raped a woman forty years younger than him, the students were objecting to that as much as the AI. Maybe don't schedule public speaking events after being accused of rape if you don't want to get booed.

unfirehose 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"don't be evil"

sam_lowry_ an hour ago | parent [-]

What about the presumption of innocence? The case is in open court now, AFAIU.

kleiba2 an hour ago | parent [-]

Can someone who downvoted parent's comment explain what's wrong with the presumption of innocence in their opinion?

lostmsu 41 minutes ago | parent [-]

A lot of people enjoy the moonlight dancing on pitchforks. It's captivating! It shows strength! Presumption of innocence is meh.

cubefox an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You are equating accusation of rape with rape. I shouldn't have to point out there is a big difference.

gilrain an hour ago | parent [-]

Until convictions of rape are justly meted out, you’ll have to stomach accusations taking justice’s place. Justice won’t just sleep.

Blame wealth for making the corruption of the courts too damn obvious. Now they’re not taken seriously.

logicchains an hour ago | parent [-]

You could just as easily say blame wealth for the rape accusations; there's much more incentive to make fake rape accusations of rich men than of poor men.

SamoyedFurFluff an hour ago | parent | next [-]

There really isn’t that much incentive to accuse a much wealthier man of rape. Famously, justice is rarely (if ever) metered out when the accused person is wealthy and influential. This guy (allegedly) violently raped a woman on his boat and he still gets a speaking gig, so.

If you’re so confident it’s a solid way to get ahead, please go ahead and try it yourself.

cubefox 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Famously, justice is rarely (if ever) metered out when the accused person is wealthy and influential. This guy (allegedly) violently raped a woman on his boat and he still gets a speaking gig, so.

"So"? The fact that someone is alleged of rape and doesn't lose their invited speech is hardly evidence of injustice. Allegations are not convictions nor proof of guilt.

It seems you are against the presumption of innocence. This presumption is itself a cornerstone of justice, not the opposite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence

sheikhnbake an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

There's also a higher chance that wealthy perpetrators of sexual violence are under-represented in data. There's no denying the relationship between the 'justice' system and the wealthy. Case in point: Judge Persky in the Brock Turner trial.

weregiraffe an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Is "accused of rape" and "raped" the same in your mind?

Mizza an hour ago | parent [-]

It's up to you to choose to who to believe about what happened on the yacht in the gulf of Mexico, the seventy year old billionaire cheating on his wife, or the thirty year old woman who accused him of forcible rape. There was some form of financial settlement, but it's still in private arbitration.

The public documents said: “He followed me into a shower, slammed me against the wall, and forcibly raped me. I begged him to stop and cried out that he was hurting me, but he ignored my pleas. The next morning, Schmidt attempted to convince me that I enjoyed the assault.”

The point is that student activists handed out flyers about this in advance, so the crowd was aware.

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weregiraffe 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If I blindly believe all accusations, will it lead to a better world?

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keybored 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It isn’t every day that Big Tech execs get to hear the truth of everyperson sentiment.

Levitz 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think college campuses are exactly representative of "everyperson sentiment".

There was a time in which they deserved some respect, as a result of free exchange of ideas among intellectuals. That's far behind by now.

ipython an hour ago | parent | next [-]

AI has a net negative perception in surveys across the US. It’s so unpopular that AI data center development is less popular than a nuclear power plant.

Yes I’d say this is more than representative of “every person” sentiment.

surgical_fire an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's about time rich morons stop being treated as intellectuals just because they are rich.

cindyllm an hour ago | parent [-]

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keybored an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Culture War topics about college campus value systems are irrelevant here.

jackmottatx 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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daveguy 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, maybe they should listen for once. Every indie developer should be working to get people off the big tech slop treadmill.

embedding-shape 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> Every indie developer should be working to get people off the big tech slop treadmill.

And what exactly are we supposed to do? Just try to ship alternatives to big tech slop? Actively try to work against them? Publish cracked software so they stop earning money?

Genuinely asking, as I'm not sure sure indie developers are the ones who should try to work against these enormous corporations, it's typically the job of the government to ensure society works and is fair, but they seem to currently be on the side of big tech, so indie developers can't realistically do anything about it, unless I'm missing what you're asking for here.

daveguy 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Agreed. The most effective efforts aren't going to come from indie developers. They aren't software issues, more regulatory. Busting up big tech into "baby bells" is the number one thing that needs to be done.

But now that we have essentially "boilerplate for free", I hope the degoogle/demeta/etc and self-hosted efforts are boosted in a way that even my mom can migrate away without much trouble. But that'll probably take real AI and not slop based addiction machines.

embedding-shape 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> self-hosted efforts are boosted in a way that even my mom can migrate away without much trouble

I love self-hosting, been doing it myself for quite some time already, and also notice a slight uptick among friends and acquaintances also interested in the same. When it comes to businesses, the ones that didn't already host their data in Europe/EU, are now desperately moving the data, but almost none of them go on-prem/self-hosted, for the typical reasons.

So, while there is a slight uptick, I'm not sure this is the "local stacks" moment, and also not sure that's actually what the public wants. I sometimes dream of setting up a company basically focused on helping people do more self-hosting in various ways, but after looking into it more, I always end up with the feeling that people typically don't actually want self-hosting, most people don't seem to care where the data lives. That'd be such a dream business though, so it's hard to let go of the idea :)

delfinom 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The only ones that need to hear the truth are the speakers not realizing they are first to go in civil uprising over mass unemployment