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k33n 2 hours ago

It’s possible that you’re not conscious. So your subjective view may be correct for you. To those who are conscious, this argument doesn’t really matter, and the proof is simply in the pudding.

thepasch an hour ago | parent | next [-]

This is a religious argument. If you want to go down that path, then sure; but I suspect that's not what you actually believe.

k33n a few seconds ago | parent [-]

It’s not a religious argument.

It’s a subjective experience argument. As a conscious person, if someone tells me they don’t believe in consciousness, then I’m inclined to believe they have a reason for saying that. They must not be experiencing consciousness.

solveiga 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If we accept subjective feeling as definitive proof that something exists, that opens a Pandora’s box of entities. People have deeply held subjective beliefs about things like God, afterlife experiences, out-of-body experiences, and many others. It seems unfair to me to dismiss this kind of subjective evidence in these cases, while accepting it without question for experience of consciousness.

anon291 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No conscious person can know if another person is conscious. There is no 'sensation' of experiencing another conscious. Given how many people can and have been fooled by AI, this lack of ability to sense another consciousness is clear.

selcuka an hour ago | parent [-]

That's the basis of the p-zombies thought experiment discussed (and dismissed without any real arguments) in the article.