| ▲ | coffeefirst 3 hours ago |
| Agreed. The ideal implementation of AI for Apple is probably to finally make Siri work. This isn’t necessary fancy, just let me set some calendar events without knowing the magic words or tell it to open Overcast and play the new Gastropod episode. Better yet, for power users, let me set up reusable shortcuts using natural language. The most important part of this is it doesn’t necessarily feel like AI. The user does not like AI for its own sake or the weirdos who ramble about putting them into a permanent underclass. The user likes messaging their friends and playing music. To much of this hype cycle has no user in mind. |
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| ▲ | samrus 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Absolutely agreed. It feels like tech companies forgot that they are supposed to add value to users. Theyve been shoving random AI usecases down their users throats with no regard for whether it works for the users flow or not. When theres so much value to be had from AI in normal products. Claude code is the best in this right now, probably because the engineers themselves are users. This isnt unprecedented, its what happened in the dotcom bubble as well. But then that tech started getting used properly as well. So i think its a matter of time before claude code levels of value is avialable to normal users |
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| ▲ | the_snooze an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | >Absolutely agreed. It feels like tech companies forgot that they are supposed to add value to users. They lost the plot long ago. They're firmly in extraction mode now: how much value can they get from end-users? | |
| ▲ | new_account_100 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > When theres so much value to be had from AI in normal products. Please elaborate | | |
| ▲ | MrDarcy an hour ago | parent [-] | | Replace search for one. | | |
| ▲ | kjkjadksj 8 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Proper search is far more powerful. I can set the weights for the results to various parameters, focusing on certain metadata in particular. Sad to see popular search tools have gone stupid in recent years. But search is still very powerful and Imo ai is no replacement for good search. An example of a powerful search engine is pubmed and the logic you can craft in your queries. |
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| ▲ | kjkjadksj 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Do people want that? I mean I don’t think it can discern if I say 15 or 50. Why would I leave that to chance that the ai properly grokked my message when despite what I’m guessing decades of work in the speech to text field, it is still pretty unreliable? Doing the task myself is trivial enough and 100% reliable. |
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| ▲ | tobr an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > This isn’t necessary fancy, just let me set some calendar events without knowing the magic words or tell it to open Overcast and play the new Gastropod episode. Better yet, for power users, let me set up reusable shortcuts using natural language. Isn’t this the proverbial ”faster horse”? Ie let me do exactly what I can do now, in a very slightly different, possibly very slightly more convenient way? |
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| ▲ | layer8 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | A car is still a faster horse in the sense that you decide where to go with it. It doesn’t outsource decisions to somewhere else. (Arguably the car affords you better control than an unruly horse. Self-driving cars are moving us closer to the horse again. ;)) | |
| ▲ | kibwen an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If the user asks for a faster horse and you sell them a car, you win. If the user asks for a faster horse and you sell them a trebuchet, you lose, no matter how fast the trebuchet would technically get them to their destination. | |
| ▲ | whatshisface an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | The whole point of AI is that if something different happens, it's not you doing it. | | |
| ▲ | paul7986 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Exactly as a UX person who watched the movie H.E.R. A few times i feel something like is the next UX internet evolution… talking and texting to AI where all visuals need to be seen appear your iPhones lock screen. Siri would in the background communicate with AI agents of businesses to govt organizations to organizations to your friends and family to get things done for you. Lessen the need to unlock your phone and Apples creating AI AirPods just use the iPhones lock screen to create/show the appropriate visuals and text. As UX / UI professional of 17 years I think design is a dying field the above would kill digital UI design quicker. Yet the UX would be less steps / friction to complete tasks which is the harbinger of UX design…less is more. On a side note I’m just in medical school studying a mid level
Concentration. I don’t foresee a LONG term future in digital design and development much anymore. | | |
| ▲ | kjkjadksj 4 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Now I’m picturing a dystopia movie. No one knows how to plan any events anymore, some event appears in their calendar and they show up and find some people there matched to their profile. People get silenced from certain events and can’t get back in. Like a personalized music playlist but it’s your entire life. People forget how to organize and create original ideas, and any prospect of revolution becomes as likely as expecting a farmers cattle to rise up. |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > ideal implementation of AI for Apple is probably to finally make Siri work Wouldn't the simplest solution be to auction off Siri's back end the way Apple does Safari's search bar in iOS? |
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| ▲ | benoau an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | They're reportedly already doing that, AI services will be able to publish "Extensions" that Siri will use and then those services can compete amongst themselves to power it. But this is contingent on the same services not being able to replace Siri and being able to reserve its APIs for Apple's exclusive use, and they have a pretty tenuous grasp on that these days. https://9to5mac.com/2026/05/05/ios-27-will-let-you-choose-be... | |
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| ▲ | danaris 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | No, because what Siri does needs to be tightly integrated in ways that search does not. |
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| ▲ | bonesss 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I have a grander vision for an ideal Apple “AI”: anti-AI. I’m picturing a combination of on-board facilities and online services from the Apple cloud that Apple product holders could use to flag and filter LLM slop. As a value added prospect, iPhone users who read HN or used TikTok would be seeing clear UI-level indications of when they’re interacting with slop with options to kill it. In my estimation it would provide platform benefits without losing capabilities, leverage Apples hardware and not advertising positioning, fix critical issues of spam and scams, and let them market a higher calibre of online experience. Also, they could un-eff Siri - “play album X starting at track Y”, come on, it’s 2026. |
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| ▲ | WillAdams 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The thing which kills me is a lot of this was working back in the Newton days. |
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| ▲ | smugma an hour ago | parent [-] | | Can you expand on this? Having used two different Newton models, even squinting, I don’t understand what you’re getting at. | | |
| ▲ | WillAdams 34 minutes ago | parent [-] | | On my Newton MessagePad, one could write things such as "Lunch <name> Friday" interact with it using a stylus to activate "Newton Intelligence" and it would create a calendar event for the next Friday, and attach the contact as a link. |
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