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tgsovlerkhgsel an hour ago

That doesn't solve for services that by definition need to be accessed on the go, e.g. public transit, parcel pickup, luggage lockers, rental bikes, restaurant menus, paying for parking, etc. (some of these may not mandate phones in your area yet or may allow mobile web alternatives, these are just examples where I've seen strong pushes towards apps or at leas in many places).

Insimwytim 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

  > restaurant menus
Well, that's easy to deal with - don't go the restaurants that openly disrespect you.

Out of all the examples you have presented everything had worked somehow without phones not so long ago.

Maybe, with the exception of online public transit status streaming. And public transit still works without it.

thewebguyd 18 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

We'd need regulation for that. Either a mandate that the digital option is optional, and services must have an alternative means, or a mandate that any app based service also has an equally viable mobile web option, making the app optional.

Tbh I see no reason why all of that couldn't just be a website instead of a native app. Menus should just be a website, transit should still be offering physical metro cards, the lockers & bikes could just as easily be a website.

Folks on HN won't like this ida but quite frankly I'd go a step further and have a mandate that services like these must offer an API for the public to use in order to bring their own app/solution. It'd be nice to not be limited to exclusively first party options. How ridiculous is it that there are so many different pay for parking apps, when if all of them just offered an API I could roll my one all in one parking web app, etc.

I'd even pay a subscription, like many of these services offer already, for API access instead.