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chappi42 6 hours ago

This article fails to mention GrapheneOS.

The article starts with Murena, Punkt, Volla which are all based on Android. If you do this, then imho you must mention GrapheneOS, the by far better option (updates, privacy, security, organisation).

Google Pixel with GrapheneOS is the best non-Google phone... ;-)

abraham 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

GrapheneOS doesn't fit the criteria of the list.

https://grapheneos.org/faq#preinstalled-devices

gunalx 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As much as I like graphene it is literary running on google hardware (atm) and uses asop. Even if it is a really good option is you want to run degoogled and secure android.

throawayonthe 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Murena (/e/ os), Punkt, Volla use aosp

InvertedRhodium 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’m waiting to see what they come up with for the Motorola partnership. Hopefully it’s interesting.

gib444 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

GrapheneOS requires a Google Pixel (currently) though. That's why they omitted it I imagine

Freak_NL 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I hear the requirements for running Apple's mobile OS are quite stringent too.

someguyiguess 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You might want to re-read the headline.

gib444 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Please try a bit harder to respond within the context

ctdinjeu2 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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izacus 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

GrapheneOS is a Google OS - it's a slightly modified Android developed by Google and continues to be dependent on Google for updates.

(Murena /e/OS is similar. No, slamming the downvote button won't make either of them any less Google dependant OSes.)

em-bee 3 hours ago | parent [-]

you are being downvoted because the article considers de-googled versions of android acceptable. and neither are dependent on google in the sense that even if google stopped publishing android source altogether they could continue to develop the versions they already have. that's the whole point of Free Software and Open Source.

izacus an hour ago | parent [-]

Yeah, and that's utter nonsense. Noone is really stepping up to develop Android beyond repackaging it.

If Google decides to remove a feature, GrapheneOS and other forks will end up without it too. If they stop publishing security patches, the forks end up insecure too.

It's just like all the Chrome "forks" when ManifestV2 died. None of them survived for more than a few versions until maintainers lost interest.

Calling any of these Google free is downright lying.

hulitu 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> This article fails to mention GrapheneOS.

From Wikipedia: "GrapheneOS[b] (/ˈɡræfiːn.oʊˈɛs/) is a free and open-source, privacy- and security-focused, Android-based operating system"

So still Android.