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ramoz 3 hours ago

A non-technical friend of mine has just won some hospital contracts after vibecoding w/ Claude an inventory management solution for them. They gave him access to IT dept servers and he called me extremely lost on how to deploy (cant connect Claude to them) and also frustrated because the app has some sort of interesting data/state issues.

_HMCB_ 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Heaven help us.

jeremyjh 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What concerns me about this is that as these stories multiply and circulate people will just completely stop buying software/SAAS from startups, because 90% or more will be this same thing. It will completely kill the market.

pjc50 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Oracle have routinely had multimillion pound contract failures and people keep buying from them. Big vendors are too big to fail.

jeremyjh 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Those are custom software or heavily customized implementations of ERP and similar systems for very large organizations. I’m talking more about the SMB market where today it’s possible for a small team to carve out a niche and make a nice living or even bootstrap a venture that competes with a large player that has poor UX or antiquated feature designs.

The reason Oracle can continue failing at those massive projects is simple: everyone fails at them routinely and often it’s the customers fault.

tosti 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Same with Deloitte

the13 3 hours ago | parent [-]

no one's getting fired for hiring either one.

billywhizz 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> It will completely kill the market.

it will kill all the people in that hospital too

rcoveson 2 hours ago | parent [-]

What is this, Humanitarian News?

salawat an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The real Hackers were the ones actually trying to minimize suffering all along. Not reproduce it at scale.

ryandrake 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

But the Torment Nexus is such an interesting technical challenge! and I don’t personally torment people: I just move protobufs around! - Software Engineer #1 and #2 excuses

jatora an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

thankyou

jameshart 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I mean, the stories about how stuff was getting built in the late 90s/early 2000s aren’t much worse.

jatora an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

[flagged]

slopinthebag 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Or you end up with a certification process, which will of course introduce it's own problems but startups doing things the right way and not just "moveing fast and breaking things" can thrive.

ofjcihen an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As a cybersecurity IR professional as much as I hate to see this happen to a hospital this kind of thing is responsible for essentially tripling my income over the last 3 years.

linkregister 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This hospital will learn some hard lessons. I hope their backup strategy is good. I'm surprised they can field software from an entity that isn't SOC2 & HIPAA certified.

GolfPopper an hour ago | parent | next [-]

No worries! At worst, the contractor can just tell Claude to make sure the hospital knows they're appropriately certified. And the hospital can use Claude to make sure the certs are valid. Everybody wins, except the ones who end up dead. Or with their health destroyed.

ethbr1 39 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> from an entity that isn't SOC2 & HIPAA certified

What do you think the fake Delve attestation scandal was about? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47444319

AlexCoventry 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Have you tried to talk him out of it, and have you considered blowing the whistle on him? He could kill people!

3form 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wow. This is like every other gold rush. Millions will walk into the ice and snow, somehow not questioning that their ability to dig is not unique.

mikestorrent an hour ago | parent [-]

Well, selling shovels has always been a good way to deal with that problem

TheGrassyKnoll 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

The shovel sellers are ringing the cash register.

EasyMark 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is going to happen all over. Company I'm currently contracting with has gone AI everything (aka technical debt hell), and they're gonna suffer for it. I'm glad my consulting contract ends in 2 months. I don't want to be around for the crash

yumraj 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Don't help him. Let him figure it out by himself, else they (he and hospital) will never learn.

technion 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A hospital could not learn a bigger lesson from this person than their existing big players.

(Screams in "deployed in 2026 a new product that only works in internet explorer" in healthcare).

ramoz 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't have time for that. I just told him he needs to hire somebody

tacostakohashi 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Or, "help" by asking questions, or otherwise by sharing an AI review/analysis/suggestions, since they're into that kind of thing.

Definitely cleaning up other people's AI mess for them for free is not a good use of time.

jimbokun 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I hope you have quoted him a very very high hourly rate.

paulryanrogers an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Did he lie about HIPAA compliance?

jcgrillo 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

jfc lmao