This "car-tinkering app" is used as a glorified GameShark for deleting factory emissions controls, I don't feel sorry for anyone who uses this to roll coal or whatever. Instead of investigating everyone on the list of users of this app, should the government instead ban diesel engines knowing their emissions controls software will be defeated? Should environmental regulations be relaxed? What is really the solution here?

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traderj0e 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They want testimonies to use against the app. The solution they're trying to pursue is to outlaw the app, not investigate its users.

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m463 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

...via investigating users.

	▲	traderj0e 15 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		That would suggest the users are defendants. They supposedly just want witnesses. I had another comment questioning this though.

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repiret an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Periodic vehicle inspection for emissions and safety compliance. Many jurisdictions already have this for gas engine emissions, a handful of states already have safety inspections. Done right, it can be low burden and low cost, and basically put an end to Def deletion. Done poorly it's grift to the shops that do the inspections, and an economically external annoyance to vehicle owners, and unnecessarily limits the ability of people to tinker with their own vehicles.

	▲	traderj0e 8 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I don't really care how it affects car modders or people with sports cars. I have a sports car, and yeah the California smog test has been super annoying cause of electrical problems with that are unrelated to its actual emissions, but I knew what I was getting into when I bought something known for unreliability. There's a dude across the street with a modded car who always complains he has to bribe the smog guy $500, as if he was forced into driving a track car on the street. I just want regular cars to be drivable without undue burdens. California gasoline tax pisses me off more because it's higher than anywhere else and the money seemingly goes nowhere.

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whalesalad 23 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

federal and state governments buy and operate diesel vehicles without emissions controls because of how bad they are in critical situations. rules for thee but not for me.

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traderj0e 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

These drivers aren't in critical situations, and their mods aren't designed for that

	▲	whalesalad 10 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Honestly, how do you know? Regardless, it's completely unfair. The government knows emissions control tech takes one of the most reliable workhorse powerplants in the world and neuters it, weakens it, and makes it more susceptible to failure. A lot of folks delete their diesel trucks not to "roll coal" or own the libs, but because it makes their vehicles more reliable.