| ▲ | jazz9k 2 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||
While output may have been part of it. It's possible that by staying later (and working longer), they had better relationships with upper management. "I used to get my work done on time and leave" This sounds like you just wanted to get your work done and not foster any work relationships. This is fine, but you will not get promoted this way (as you've seen). Moving up in a company is 30% work and 70% networking/being likelable/noticed. I stopped that nonsense years ago. I work for myself now as a consultant. If I work more, I get paid more. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | darth_avocado 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
You’re assuming a lot here. Getting your work done on time and leaving doesn’t equate to not being likable. If it was a popularity contest, I would’ve been around the same as the people who were pretend working, if not more. My partner and my director wrote me a recommendation letter before I left, which I wouldn’t attribute to something they’d do if I was a nobody. There are other reasons why the bad behavior gets rewarded. If the management is incompetent, they genuinely focus on the optics and not on the actual work. And if they are competent, they understand that the people who stay behind unnecessarily or come over the weekends are more exploitable in the long run. And if the people in management are the kind of people who stay behind unnecessarily, having a team full of people who do the same, rewards them as well. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Loughla 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
I took a job with the state I live in recently because friends were promoted over competent employees (not even counting myself in that because they were just promoted to my level). New job is fully remote and has a clear path to advancement based on clear work based metrics. While it may be true that it's pretty standard, I'm convinced that any organization that relies more on face time and friendships than on actual skill is absolutely toxic. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | watwut 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
You just described a bad management - the one that favors butt in seat and rewards lack of outside life over actual benefits to company. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | reactordev 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Moving up is 100% being likeable. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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