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Simulacra 3 hours ago

Sounds like I need to download this app..

caminante 3 hours ago | parent [-]

If you start tuning, then make sure you turn it off before bringing your car to the dealership.

It'll void any warranty.

rootusrootus 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> It'll void any warranty.

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act disagrees with you.

caminante an hour ago | parent [-]

What is your understanding of the Act and its limitations [0]?

Here's a legal view that explains it further [1].

Basically, they can deny warranty service if you make modifications, and they can tie it to a failure. You can add 100s of HP to your engine profile with these things, and why would it be reasonable to expect a manufacturer to warrant related component repairs if they're pushed beyond spec?

Here are relevant quotes, and []'s are mine.

> The Magnuson Moss Warranty Act requires manufacturers to honor their warranties and auto manufacturers only warrant their vehicles against manufacturing defects. Your claim here could be denied because the failure was not due to a defect in a factory component. It was caused by something added to the car[...] That system caused a non-defective part to fail. Your mod did not void the [entire] warranty. It’s just that the failure was not caused by a factory defect.

> Obviously, an aftermarket camshaft or a hopped up ECU won’t void the entire warranty on your car. The master cylinder failed? The blue tooth quit working? Unless there is a logical connection between the mod and the part or system that failed, you should be good to go.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty...

[1] https://lehtoslaw.com/will-modifications-void-new-car-warran...

AlexandrB 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Consumer rights are in a dire state. Reminds me of Toyota claiming someone voided their warranty by driving their racecar too fast[1].

[1] https://www.motor1.com/news/729265/toyota-gr-corolla-warrant...

caminante an hour ago | parent [-]

Damn. You get a complimentary track day, but Toyota said going 114 MPH is abuse. Both cars were just serviced.

Adding insult, one guy had his comprehensive insurance coverage lapse right before!

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