There is hardly a bright line between real and fake. An influencer is just a person who rents out their identity. Can you imagine getting a real PR from a human engineer you trust, but the description says "This pull request was sponsored by Skeezy Software Inc."?

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adamtaylor_13 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, yes and no. What I mean is, being a related person who is indeed a person (by whatever means you establish that) and having some sort of standard by which you won't be bought, seems increasingly rare and therefore valuable.

By "bought" I don't mean they won't sponsor stuff. I mean they've got a public standard that can be trusted to some degree.

Your final example isn't exactly what I'm thinking of here. I'm thinking that a well-known identity and name within a community bypasses a lot of this BS with AI slop and communities bombarded by the slop will continue to close themselves off which will increase the value of being a known, contributing member.

Idk I need to figure out a way to articulate this better but essentially the value of being verifiably human is increasing IMO.

	▲	sowbug 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I'm imagining a chart with two lines. Both have to do with verifying humanity online. The first line shows its cost. It increases dramatically over time. The other line shows its value. That one declines gradually, then falls off a cliff. I think we're very close to those two lines crossing. Which is another way of saying that people might care today whether something was generated by/with AI, but I don't think they will care soon. Humans will still decide what gets created, but the how won't matter as much. You might be right that the software equivalent of a sourdough-baking Reddit community will continue to exist. But most people will buy bread at the store and have no idea how it's made.
	▲	abnercoimbre 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Digital human fortresses are totally becoming a thing. For example, our community [0] asks you to submit an application before you're granted an invite code. If you attend a meetup in person we'll grant a "Verified Human" badge too. This gives you the power to invite others into the fortress: you're responsible for them. The price to pay is steep because community growth is now glacial. It really does solve the slop problem though. (I'm also no longer convinced maximizing growth is Good.) Maybe there's some in-between solution for those who dislike invite-only spaces. [0] https://handmadecities.com/chat