Ryobi make mostly good tools though. The results produced by most Ryobi users, myself included, are limited by user skill not tool quality.

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arka2147483647 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you are a DIY, you might use a tool once a week, or once a year. A pro might use a tool everyday, all day.

A different durability requirement.

A Ryobi is not bad, if it fills your needs, but might not be enough for heavy use.

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Aurornis 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Which is market segmentation at work. If the DIYers get good enough tools at cheap prices and the pros have a separate line that’s more expensive and more durable, what are we supposed to be mad about?

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peatmoss 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you buy their brushless line, you can add a few decent tools to your lineup while using the cheap stuff for everything else. Same battery platform generally. I have a lot of their cheap stuff, plus a few good ones that see more use.

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sitkack 3 hours ago | parent [-]

You can buy or make adapters so there is no battery platforms. If we had a functioning FTC there would be no battery platform.

	▲	peatmoss 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Didn't realize adapters were common! I agree on the FTC / standardization point.

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0xbadcafebee 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Their tools work, but that's different from being good, in comparison to others. They feel and sound terrible and don't perform well at all. If you buy any other brand than Ryobi, you will immediately go "oh, this is clearly better". It's like they designed Ryobi to be as bad as possible without being defective, so that you can't complain about it, but have a great reason to buy Ridgid or Milwaukee.

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bluGill 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There has generally been a grade below Ryobi that is junk. Been that way for decades before Ryobi even existed. Ryobi isn't the best quality, but it is generally good enough and cheaper.