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flanked-evergl 4 hours ago

I recently decided I will go for the cheap Chinese store brand power tools for most things. It's about 1/5 to 1/3 the price of Ryobi, gets really good reviews, have been sold for more than 10 years now with the same batteries, and comes with a 5 year warranty which is 2 years more than ryobi. It's maybe not going to last 10 years, but at 1/5 the price it does not have to.

sedawkgrep 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think the rule of thumb for non-professionals is:

Buy cheap and if you use it enough that it breaks, buy expensive the second time.

bluGill 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

All too often I've seen amateurs do this and thing think "don't blame the tool, I must be bad", when it really is the tool! A good craftsman never blames his tools is a reflection on the types of tool a craftsman has, not just the skill they have.

jeffbee 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

By following this rule you could easily end up with a tool that lasts forever but strips out all your screw heads.

MarkusQ 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Replace "breaks" with "fails to work as intended" then.

A tool that doesn't break but does smell like a refinery or damages nearby electronics when used, gets strangely hot or inexplicably changes shape when idle, etc. should still be replaced.

jerf 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think anyone is asking you to stupidly follow the advice off a cliff. You're welcome to call "stripping all your screw heads" broken and take appropriate action.

flanked-evergl an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think that is how screws work. I really have a hard time seeing how the drill makes a difference with that. The bit you use, sure. How you use the drill, sure. Maybe if the drill has a completely messed up clutch maybe, but then the tool is not functional and you should return it.

skeeter2020 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

that's not an example of a tool that works, though.

fatbird 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't follow this example. Isn't stripping screw heads a skills issue? How does a tool help/hurt with that?

everybodyknows an hour ago | parent [-]

Better machining on a Phillips tip really does help.

fatbird 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Perfect. The dirty little secret of this strategy is that most people's uses just aren't that demanding, so the cheap stuff is more than sufficient. Additionally, breaking a cheap tool is a great indicator of where your real needs for quality lie, which is rarely where you think it will be.