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cucumber3732842 5 hours ago

That's just a variant of this old one:

Two economists are walking through a cow pasture.

The first economist says to the other “I’ll pay you $100 to eat that pile of shit.” The second economist takes the $100 and eats the pile of shit.

They continue walking until they come across a second pile of shit. The second economist turns to the first and says “I’ll pay you $100 to eat that pile of shit.” The first economist takes the $100 and eats a pile of shit.

Walking a little more, the first economist looks at the second and says, "You know, I gave you $100 to eat shit, then you gave me back the same $100 to eat shit. I can't help but feel like we both just ate shit for nothing."

"That's not true", responded the second economist. "We increased the GDP by $200!"

jerf 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Except the GP quote actually happens.

For example, if you've ever wondered why useless art trades at such eye-watering valuations, the answer is that the high valuations are fictions that governments will accept for tax purposes, from which you can derive a variety of exciting tax consequences: https://naturalist.gallery/blogs/journal/understanding-the-f... more-or-less because they agree among themselves what the art is valuated at for their own benefit.

lesuorac 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well while the pile of shit makes it a joke, isn't there a real advantage here of legibility?

Like you have a measure (GDP) and it can't accurate measure things unless a sale occurs. So even if the money is a wash there was an actual activity occurring in the economy and now it's recorded.

lotsofpulp 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That scenario does not work for this discussion because the first economist has no reason to expect the second economist will ask him to eat shit for $100.