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einszwei 13 hours ago

Opus Fast Mode is 30$/150$/M Input/Output cost. Mythos's pricing (from model card) is 25$/125$ Input/Output cost.

Based on this I doubt that Mythos pro is too dangerous to release or provides significantly more value.

hsuduebc2 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

As far as my understanding goes. It is not a breakthrough model itself but finetuned model with right tools and skills. Fairly similiar to today's coding agents with difference that they are made for software engineering not cyber security.

ACCount37 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Mythos is the next point on the scaling curve.

It has considerably more parameters than most frontier models of today. Which gives it a lot more oomph per token.

Is it a "breakthrough" as in "something novel and unexpected"? No. Is it a "breakthrough" as in "something we know works, but made to work on a greater scale"? Very much so.

hsuduebc2 9 hours ago | parent [-]

So it's just a bigger model? Like for example todays 1T models?

ACCount37 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Supposedly 10T scale. Literally the next big thing. A bit like what OpenAI tried with GPT-4.5 - but Anthropic actually made it work with MoE, reasoning, tool use, RLVR, etc.

It matters because the "g factor" of today's LLMs is at least in part a function of raw scale. Larger models are just smarter - assuming you can handle the training and inference at this increased scale.

AnimalMuppet 8 hours ago | parent [-]

So, realistically, how much further can this go? How many more orders of magnitude?

FergusArgyll 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You just disingenuously compared it to fast mode which is expensive not due to model strength or size but because you lose all kind of optimizations