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mmooss 12 hours ago

That link is confusing. That message is from Gary Sparkes. Sparkes quotes a message from Jamie Thain [0], the author of the OP [1]. Thain quotes Lucien Hoydic who wrote that paragraph many messages prior [2] but for some reason Thain doesn't indicate it's a quote (e.g., Thain doesn't prefix the quote with ">") so it looks like Thain said it.

The best starting point is April 29th in the April archive, where Thain begins the discussion:

https://seclists.org/nanog/2026/Apr/date.html

The whole thread is people in the establishment mocking the idea, which is common to innovations good and bad, adopted and not.

[0] https://seclists.org/nanog/2026/May/6

[1] Per the FAQ: "Who is behind it?" "J. Thain (One Limited), author of draft-thain-ipv8-02 and the companion specifications covering routing protocols, RINE, ZoneServer, WHOIS8, NetLog8, and Update8."

[2] https://seclists.org/nanog/2026/Apr/130