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potbelly83 3 hours ago

Education yes, research unfortunately no. I'm not saying research outside of academia is not possible, I'm just saying it's not taken seriously and this needs to change. We really do need to go back to the 19th century model of the researcher gentleman.

cmiles8 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A real shock to academia is that top research increasingly takes place outside universities. On many areas universities are now 5-10 years behind what’s happening in the private sector. That’s causing a lot of panic within the system and a growing stream of departures as PhDs favor the private sector over academic tracts.

waterheater an hour ago | parent | next [-]

A few years ago, when I was actively involved with the academic world, I came to a similar realization. They're trying to do too many things at once. Universities need to acknowledge this reality and adjust.

After thinking about it, I came up with a straightforward solution (at least in STEM): offer more than one type of of doctoral degree. Every program will have at least two doctoral programs: a Doctor of Philosophy, and a Doctor of Science/Engineering/Mathematics/etc.

The Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) program is academia at its core, where the students in this doctoral program are explicitly seeking an academic teaching or research position as their career path. The coursework and educational activities are explicitly aligned for this area.

The Doctor of Science/Engineering/Mathematics is focused on creating a top-of-the-line researcher intended for industry or an FFRDC. Those students receive a different type of education which explicitly gives them the deeper research skills and connections needed to become an accomplished industry researcher.

The two programs are equally rigorous but have different end goals in mind. This specialization is overdue, and most departments already have a fuzzy line separating the "academics" from the "practitioners."

marcosdumay 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That is how it should be, and how it has historically been.

There has been an unsustainable inflation of academic research on the last 150 years or so after governments decided to formalize research. But the thing about unsustainable stuff is that they always end.

The institutions that teach researchers also doing the majority of it necessarily turn into a Ponzi scheme.

nukedindia 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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GenerocUsername 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

YouTube and Patreon have done wonders for rebooting the modern research gentleman field.

I follow a dozen YouTubers doing extremely niche, cutting edge, science.

It is progressing beyond 'backyard science'.

pbhjpbhj 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Care to share any that people here might like to follow?

JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> a dozen YouTubers doing extremely niche, cutting edge, science

Evidence of something that's been impactful?

layer8 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Research is usually a collaborative effort nowadays. You’d need a League of Research Gentlemen. Not to mention that an important number of research fields require expensive research labs/equipment.

bregma 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I dunno. The single major qualification of being from money has not always made for the best research results.

kjkjadksj 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The researcher gentleman cannot afford their own cryo em. We aren’t doing the science of 1890 anymore.