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| ▲ | mcmcmc 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > he seems like someone who maybe regularly placates people to avoid personal problems and lies to get out of trouble rather than a Machiavellian tech baron. This would be more plausible were it not for the staggering amount of wealth he’s amassed through those lies. |
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| ▲ | mrhottakes 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| When someone tells you who they are, you should believe them. |
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| ▲ | grey-area 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| His own sister accused him of sexual assault. He was fired from his first startup. He was abruptly fired from ycombinator in shady circumstances. He was accused by the OpenAI board of lying to them, ousted, and somehow managed to regain control. He took OpenAI from being a non-profit to a for-profit, with obvious benefits to whoever controls it. He was massively misleading about the capabilities of his product and predicted AGI within years. At some point the pattern of all these events should have some weight in your judgement of him, no? |
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| ▲ | jjulius 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > ... I still kind of want to try to believe he's not. Asking genuinely - why? |
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| ▲ | hx8 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | What if it's actually super-intelligence and a human aligned visionary is at the helm. The good case is very good. | | |
| ▲ | saulpw 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I mean what if he's actually the second coming of Christ. We can make up "what if"s all day but it's meaningless to even discuss them if you don't have a shred of evidence to support the claim. | | |
| ▲ | hx8 20 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Exactly. The second coming of Christ would be a very good case. Why people want to believe Altman is good is about the same reason people want to believe in the second coming. | | |
| ▲ | hluska 3 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I’m really struggling to see how Christian apocalyptic ideas are even remotely relevant. We used to be capable of so much. |
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| ▲ | estearum an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Uhh literally what is one thing Sam has done or said that demonstrates he's either human-aligned or visionary? | |
| ▲ | latexr an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Come on… The guy who said he can’t imagine caring for his child without consulting ChatGPT… The guy who said he didn’t know how to make revenue with ChatGPT, and made a “soft promise” to investors they’d somehow achieve AGI then ask it how to make money… The guy who made a cryptocurrency scam that was banned in multiple countries… The guy who everyone around him says he’s a con artist and a sociopath… That guy? Really? |
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| ▲ | elmomle 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| He will say whatever it takes to get the result he wants. That's manipulative and, when pursued as a lifestyle, sociopathic. Living like that is corrupting. When you treat humans like objects, the question of your starting intentions is really secondary. |
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| ▲ | bfivyvysj 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| We already reached agi a while ago. |
