> I'm increasingly convinced that there's a killer app waiting for whoever can come up with a UI that makes claude code or codex accessible to the average user.

I haven't tried it, or know a lot about it, but isn't this the whole claw thing?

Depending on what an average user looks like in your mind. For me openclaw is the opposite of a tool designed for an average user.

ChatGPT/Claude's web ui is much more like something for average user, tbh.