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hommelix 7 hours ago

By coincidence, I've looked yesterday a small documentary [1] about the people tagging all those invoices to train theses models. For 120 €/month they are reading about 1000 to 4000 invoices per day and check and tag them for AI training.

[1] https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/126831-000-A/arte-reportage/

cantalopes 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Reminds me of openai paying Kenyans $2/hr to flag violent and toxic stuff for them and a bunch of people ending up with ptsd

LazyGooze an hour ago | parent | next [-]

or the amazon store with no check-out having indians monitoring you via cameras to build your checkout bill as you out items in your shopping cart

iamflimflam1 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/aug/02/ai-chatbo...

hommelix 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In that video over Madagascar, the lowest tier jobs on AI tagging is at 1 €/3h of tagging, beating the Kenyan price.

madbkarim 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Source? Curious to know more.

iamflimflam1 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://www.thebrink.me/the-ghosts-in-the-machine-inside-ai-...

intended 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> https://www.businessinsider.com/openai-kenyan-contract-worke...

> https://www.wsj.com/tech/chatgpt-openai-content-abusive-sexu...

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZS50KXjAX0

> https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-africa-66514287

> https://www.vice.com/en/article/openai-used-kenyan-workers-m...

esseph 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There's tons of articles all over Google about this, it's not exactly hidden knowledge hoarded by this HN poster.

Example: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/18/why-former-fac...

sph 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AI: Actual Indians^WMalagasy

wiseowise 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> For 120 €/month they are reading about 1000 to 4000 invoices per day and check and tag them for AI training.

AGI will solve poverty, btw. Any second now. Just need 500 bil more bro.

elric 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

OCR based invoice recognition has been a solved problem for well over a decade. Source: I've consulted for a company doing that. No exploitation. No LLMs. Just clever engineering.

In my neck of the woods, B2B invoices are now required to be delivered over the Peppol network in UBL format, which further improves reliability.

Doesn't necessarily eliminate the need for an accountant, because the chosen UBL standard has lots of room for interpretation and ambiguity, and it's impossible to uniformly decide how process an invoice based on the invoice alone (e.g. is this deductible? is this even a business expense at all? which ledger should this go in? etc).

invoicenav 2 hours ago | parent [-]

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Barbing 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Were they sore about it?

Or don’t tell me, if it’s well worth the 24min watch

hommelix 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh no! The ones working at 120€/month are the happy few. This is above mid range income in Madagascar. I just wanted to point out that this is not all automated running on GPUs. There are people involved, more than I thought before viewing this video.