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tdb7893 2 hours ago

I've known a lot of people who justify crimes like shoplifting by the fact that these corporations have stolen from them (and not in some abstract way, often literal wage theft) and felt like the social contract was already broken. And it's not like the leaders at the large corporations I've worked at generally seem to care about their employees or customers (I would describe most places I worked at as, at best, amoral. I've heard "well, if we didn't do it some other less ethical company would" too many times).

Edit: not that I'm pro-shoplifting, it's that the article talks about them breaking the "social contract" (though the article is more of a reality show-esque piece as it's a opinions writer beefing with Twitch streamers and doesn't talk to any people actually shoplifting).

girvo 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Literal wage theft is rampant, so yeah in some ways I understand why people would feel that way.

I’m still mad about a company I worked at over 12 years ago who stole from me and never paid my Super.

bad_username 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Justifying one's crime because other crime exists - isnot a winning position long term.

girvo 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Corporations don’t follow or care about morals, and so their customers and workers begin to follow suit.

mystraline 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Chomsky called corporations legal psychopaths in the documentary "The Corporation". He was right.

If companies can engage in terrible illegal behavior and then only pay 10% of profit as a fine, so can I.

If that means I cancel all streaming services, help friends also cancel streaming services, set up a Jellyfin/Navidrome box and grab everything, I do not give one fuck. Hell, the AI companies grabbed Annas Archive and Libgen. Why not me?

So, yeah. I wouldnt steal from fellow humans. I value humans. But companies and corporate "property"? <SPIT>

GuinansEyebrows an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

perhaps not, but cynicism in kind is understandable when you have no real power to effect change.