| ▲ | dsl 2 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Which is just wildly backwards. It is the same mindset of the cyberpunk "privacy advocates" of the early 2000s, move your stuff to Sealand or Switzerland. The fundamental flaw with this plan is if your fear is genuinely of the United States, your data is far more protected inside the US. The intelligence community has no restrictions operating on foreign networks and servers. Rather than go to a FISA court for approval, we just hack your box and take your data. Or ask a European intelligence service to use the much more lax laws to compel its disclosure. Yes, data collection happens on US soil. But ask anyone who has worked on the inside how much of a pain it is to view or process USPER data. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | john_strinlai an hour ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
>The intelligence community has no restrictions operating on foreign networks and servers. there have been several bombshell revelations in the last 1-2 decades which indisputably show that the US intelligence community also has (effectively) no restrictions operating on US citizen networks and servers, and often does so with the direct help of US companies. the legal standards are worthless when they can just be ignored without consequence. when the standards happen to work, just buy the data from the private sector. secondly, these changes are also about mitigating any retaliatory decisions made when the US government gets upset at how tall another country's leader is, or whatever. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | vajrabum an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
I wish I believed that they have to go to the FISA court for much of anything any more. Instead they go to Palantir and the like which simply buy the data and aggregate it. Very similar to the process of money laundering. And for the data that can't be bought there's the five eyes work around. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | embedding-shape 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
The fear is not "NSA is snooping on our customer data", it's "Trump has a beef with our premiere minister/president, and Jeff Bezos accepted Trumps request to turn off AWS from them" that's the fear. We're far beyond the default assumption that NSA snoops on absolutely everything, and more about protection ourselves from trade wars, tariffs and similar blockages as what Microsoft did with the ICC. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | tarun_anand an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
So probably makes sense to host on EU headquartered companies | |||||||||||||||||||||||