| ▲ | triceratops a day ago |
| What would your family do if someone with a gun came and took away their land or their business? |
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| ▲ | jrflowers a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| Hire a lawyer to get it back from the police. |
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| ▲ | triceratops 17 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's the most confusing answer I've ever read. | | |
| ▲ | jrflowers 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | How so? | | |
| ▲ | triceratops 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Didn't think I needed to spell it out but here goes. If the police can take your things away at gunpoint, a lawyer isn't going to be much use. (Yes I'm aware of civil forfeiture. This discussion was about places outside the US). | | |
| ▲ | jrflowers 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Where do you live that armed bandits robbing people of _land_ is an issue but municipal/police corruption is not? And also there is no legal recourse to contest having your land seized? Obviously it can’t be Canada, where property, including land and businesses, can be seized pending forfeiture being declared by the courts. https://www.canada.ca/en/public-services-procurement/service... | | |
| ▲ | triceratops 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's exactly my point. mothballed waxed poetic about how "free" a land without government control is: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48114935 I don't see that as a paradise. No matter where you live, someone will come along and take your shit by force. At least in a functioning state with rule of law there are rules about how much they can take, and you get other services in return. | | |
| ▲ | jrflowers 2 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Your point is that no matter where you are somebody with guns can take your land and unrelatedly in some places there are also public services |
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| ▲ | mothballed a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| They have tried and failed against some people I'm aware of. Unfortunately I don't feel comfortable going into details of exactly how they failed, but I understand it was quite persuasive. Of course in the USA and Canada, it is illegal to defend property by force, except maybe in Texas. So you will probably just get your things taken and then pray the police help (they probably will not). In any case it's true that you'll probably have to defend your life and property if the government will not. Unfortunately I'm not seeing even western governments as effective at this, and to the extent it is effective, it's more a result of culture / personal self defense / non-governmental community efforts than anything related to the government. In this case having weak governance that at least doesn't have the judicial resources to prosecute people defending themselves can actually be a plus. |
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