| ▲ | The Rise of the Bullshittery(xn--gckvb8fzb.com) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | the_42nd 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Using a throwaway for this comment, but my first experience with this kind of thing was in 2013 when I joined a major international company with over 100k employees worldwide and realized that there were entire departments and organizations dedicated to delivering no value at all. Departments with 100s of people, with middle managers making several times the average salary in my country, where after years of work nothing of value was delivered and nobody was held responsible. I always wondered how companies like this can even exist and why shareholders invest in them. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | pugworthy 19 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Speaking of bullshittery, I don't really appreciate it's little game when it comes to trying to convince me to turn off JavaScript. It knows when you see it and you'll know when you see it. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | tolerance 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Haven't thoroughly read this article but these passages from C. Wright Mill's The Sociological Imagination (1959) immediately come to mind: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | lokimedes 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I have a feeling this goes waaaay back, but was covered by claims of authority, in a time where merit and authority were intertwined. My pet peeve is that management is a transferable skill that supersedes industry expertise. It is such a convenient lie that offers MBAs, management consultants, burned out business executives and “retired” generals alike a new career without actually knowing anything about what they are doing. Bullshittery of the finest quality. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | sollewitt 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
In an attention economy the thing that pays is capturing attention - a terrifyingly finite thing that determines our lived experiences. Rewarding people who are good that this is a compounding mistake. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | dataviz1000 15 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> I found myself in one of the rare situations in which I was mindlessly doom-scrolling on LinkedIn Yet, the biggest bullshittery, is every company that almost each of you work at requires a link to a LinkedIn account on every job application, not optional. It has become a form of social credit. LinkedIn isn't completely meaningless either. A huge portion of the posts are also propaganda. Finding a new job is tied to listening to propaganda. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | mjewkes 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>an awful lot of modern professional life consists of producing artifacts whose primary audience is other people producing artifacts. Slide decks for slide decks, strategy documents about strategy documents This is because thinking, communication, and collaboration are extremely valuable. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | cjs_ac 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Because I live in the UK, I’m often told this narrative of social decay, about how everything is getting worse and no one cares about doing anything properly. I disagree; I think it’s always been like this, and our feeling of disappointment persists because our expectation of improvement grows faster than actual improvement. LinkedIn is full of bullshit because no one has anything genuine to say that’s appropriate for that platform. The people posting that nonsense don’t actually believe it. The game is tedious, and if you don’t play you lose. It was like this before the Internet, too: my father limited his earning potential by being bad at networking, whereas my grandfather did went so far as to join the Freemasons to climb the corporate ladder to the top. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | VonTum 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I find especially painful the tradeoff between productivity and visibility. Every minute I spend trying to advertise my project is a minute I'm not spending making it better. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | tptacek 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This is the bullshittery in its mature form, which doesn’t consist of individual lies, or individual scams, but a steady-state ecosystem in which a large share of professional output is produced to be seen by other people producing output, and in which the connection to anything resembling a real customer, a real problem, or a real outcome has gone slack. Wait, what? Being two or more steps removed from "a real customer" makes your job bullshit? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | zelias 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
loving the overlay you get when you open it in a tab and then tab away | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | beastman82 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I simply cannot click such a domain name | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | khazhoux 10 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> the modern economy has stopped rewarding people who know what they are doing, and started rewarding people who know how to look like they do. Yes, this is a totally new phenomenon which has never ever been the case at literally every point in human history. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | d_silin 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think at least one approach that can work is de-globalization of social media into smaller, reputation/trust-ranked social networks. Discord is pretty good in this regard. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | Animats 11 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
In "Failure Is Not an Option", Gene Kranz, who ran Apollo Mission Control in the 1960s, brings up tolerance for bullshit. Someone tried to bullshit him about something. He put his arm around them and walked them out of mission control. They were never in that room again. We need more leaders like that. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | qwertyforce 15 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I blame the ML engineers who work on these recommendation systems. They chase simplistic objectives like CTR, time spent, and so on, which can be gamed by this kind of content. This creates huge positive feedback loops in which popular content becomes even more popular and forms “metas,” while models train on clickstream data they themselves have influenced. They could try to fix this, but they won’t, because no one is asking them to | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | ragall 31 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Very apt parallel between LinkedIn and late night infomercials. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | languagehacker 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The bullshittery is the thing that will not survive enshittification. I keep telling people that all the tokens we're blowing are going to explode in cost as soon as these companies run out of other people's money. To me, this means being laser-focused on your core competencies and only "farming out" stuff to AI that you would offload to a vendor. We're all familiar with the level of risk there, and the kind of encapsulation you need to swap something out if a vendor fails you. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | claysmithr 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
BSOD now stands for bullshit on demand... thanks to AI | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | boznz 19 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Those that can Do, those that can't Bullshit. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | dmitrygr 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> bullshitter is not the same as the liar, because the liar at least respects the truth enough to try to hide it, but the bullshitter does not care whether what they are saying is true or false thus, by definition, all LLMs are bullshitters | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | dmitrygr 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This is not new, sadly. At least in USA schools, cheating is quite prevalent, as is faking disability to unfairly get more time on tests (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/01/elite-universit...), so anyone being honest is at a disadvantage. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | simianwords 20 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Been noticing this new phenotype of tech bro who writes with an air of superiority, subtly belittling all those beneath him. Also ardently believes in - bullshit jobs - enshittification - kubernetes being a psyop - tech landscape was best exactly during his career peak and has gone down since | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||