| ▲ | SwellJoe 5 hours ago |
| Any reasonable person could see this was a ridiculous clown show, put on by the ridiculous clown show meme stock company. |
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| ▲ | CodeWriter23 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| This movie isn't over yet. We'll have to wait and see if GameStop goes full 80's on them with a hostile takeover attempt. |
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| ▲ | matwood 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | GME had already acquired ~5% of Ebay shares ahead of the offer. | | |
| ▲ | kentm 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | He actually didn't. The majority of that was in options. So he "controlled" 5% via derivatives but this is not the same as owning shares. | |
| ▲ | 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [deleted] | |
| ▲ | sirbutters 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Why didn't Cohen buy 100% of eBay shares. What is he, stupid? |
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| ▲ | tclancy 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Someone call T. Boone Pickens and the Greenwash Boys! | |
| ▲ | kotaKat 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Meanwhile they're now working on getting approval to dilute out another billion or so shares: https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0001326380/0... "We are asking our stockholders to approve an amendment to our Third Amended and Restated Certificate of Incorporation, as amended by the Certificate of Amendment dated June 2, 2022 (the “Existing Charter”), to increase the number of authorized shares of our common stock to 2,500,000,000, and correspondingly increase the number of authorized shares of all classes of our stock to 2,505,000,000 for the reasons discussed below. Our Existing Charter currently authorizes the issuance of 1,000,000,000 shares of common stock and 5,000,000 shares of preferred stock." | | |
| ▲ | WJW an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I thought their stockholders were super into direct registration to trigger the "mother of all short squeezes" when (or so the conspiracy went anyway) all the evil hedge funds would have to buy back their alleged naked shorts for infinite money. That doesn't really play well with Gamestop putting 1.5 billion extra shares on the market, which is basically exactly the reverse of a short squeeze and would surely push down prices. Or was this a 2022 thing and Gamestop investors have moved on from diamond handing? | |
| ▲ | SwellJoe 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Cocaine (or whatever their CEO is on) doesn't buy itself. Edit: Also, the fact that company leadership can get away with this kind of thing, fleecing retail investors for millions/billions of dollars, and face no consequences is...I dunno. I guess it's just normal now. Lawlessness, bribery, favors to the right politicians, lying without hesitation or remorse. People in media clutching their pearls over whatever the Gen Z kids are getting up to on TikTok while this shit is going on is just the icing on the cake. |
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| ▲ | boringg 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I mean they make a good point -- ebay isn't a serious company anymore. It really needs someone with a vision to rebuild it. That its limping along and executives are essentially bleeding a previously valuable internet asset dry is kind of sad. |
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| ▲ | Edman274 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They can't rebuild it. Facebook Marketplace is allowing people to buy and sell locally for free with systems for managing fraud that are more robust than Craigslist. How do you rebuild when a way larger company - with a side project of theirs - offers one of your core businesses for free? | |
| ▲ | saghm 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > ebay isn't a serious company As opposed to GameStop, which is a literal meme? | |
| ▲ | coffeebeqn 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Neither is GameStop | | |
| ▲ | boringg 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Thats not my point. Shinning a light on what eBay could be vs what it is. | | |
| ▲ | saghm 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Well yeah, if that was your point, no one would need to be correcting you | |
| ▲ | rchaud 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Pot calling the kettle black. It'd be like Barney Gumble telling Boris Yeltsin what a great president he could be if he cut out the drinking. |
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| ▲ | Scoundreller 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The sad part is the offer primarily focussed on how eBay can cut costs when a lot of that spending is probably accretive. eBay’s biggest issue is their declining online shopping marketshare. They’ve gone from owning nearly the entire market to just losing it. | | |
| ▲ | SwellJoe 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | They're doing a terrible job of preventing scams. Right now there are hundreds of listings for GPUs at too-good-to-be-true prices from sellers with 0 feedback or, worse, from old accounts with positive feedback that have obviously been taken over by scammers (all the feedback is from years ago and about unrelated products). Trust is what eBay brings to the table, when they cede that to scammers, they stop being useful...I can get scammed on TikTok any time I want. | | |
| ▲ | xp84 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Is this really a big problem for buyers now? Asking genuinely, not rhetorically. In my experience with eBay (my account is 25 years old), the one thing you could count on is that buyers who receive nothing, or get a box of bricks, or broken items or whatever, basically 100% of the time, will get refunded - if necessary, by eBay itself. (This has been frustrating of course for honest sellers who get scammed by buyers.) So, if they have a ton of scammers now, I would think customers are not being that impacted, and I would have also thought that eBay wouldn’t have too hard a time getting the sellers to pay the refunds, since they tend to withhold the funds from sellers until a little while after the delivery is confirmed. | | |
| ▲ | SwellJoe 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | It makes it feel sketchy. I don't know what the state of buyer protection is. I've read that sellers sometimes list in other countries to get around the PayPal buyer protections or otherwise get paid via some unprotected method. I can't believe all those hundreds of thousands of listings would continue to exist if there weren't some kind of pay off. Somebody's got to be making money somehow, as it's been happening for ages. Also, it makes searching difficult. Can't really sort by price anymore, because the lowest prices are almost entirely scams. It's just a much less pleasant platform when half the listing are fake. This is most extreme on GPUs and RAM, of course, since that's where the feeding frenzy is happening, but it's true of many categories with expensive goods. | | |
| ▲ | Scoundreller 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > I've read that sellers sometimes list in other countries to get around the PayPal buyer protections The buyer protections don’t really vary much, but it’s true in some countries they get more protections but it’s more regarding to buyer’s remorse rather than Items Not As Described. > or otherwise get paid via some unprotected method At least in North America (and maybe everywhere else), you’ve been required to pay via eBay for all transactions for the last decade or more. No more money orders, bank transfers, cheques or wire transfers or cash. And you can’t easily contact sellers/buyers directly anymore, it’s all through the platform and they block a lot of suspect messages/keywords. | | |
| ▲ | SwellJoe 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't know, man, I just know there's a lot of fake listings on eBay. I don't know what they're getting out of it, but I assume they're not just doing it for fun. | | |
| ▲ | Scoundreller 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It’s possible the sellers gets their cash out, the customer gets their money back from eBay and eBay is left holding the bag. |
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| ▲ | croes 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Show me any platform that successfully prevented scam. | | |
| ▲ | SwellJoe 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | eBay ten years ago. (At least, much more effectively than now, where a large percentage of listings in some categories are scams.) |
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| ▲ | Imustaskforhelp 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "Half stock, half cash": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxD-KGsvPI0 (I couldn't believe myself at first seeing things like these happening and this clip in particular, how does one get millions of dollars for such an disastrously wild interview to me feels quite off to me) |
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| ▲ | SwellJoe 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | The fact that a guy like this can rise to the level of CEO making millions pretty much sums up everything wrong with the world. I don't think I would trust that guy to make a sandwich. | | |
| ▲ | Imustaskforhelp 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I would admit that when I had first heard the news (from hackernews) and read its comments, people gave multiple examples and convuluted examples on how this all makes sense and the financial aspects. I was left feeling impressed that perhaps gamestop might've been thinking something new. Then I watched the video. > I would trust that guy to make a sandwich. Don't worry, we are just trusting him with around a measly 11 billion dollars. This isn't even the worst part by the way, somehow the worst part to me feels like there are people who watched that interview and then somehow got even more convinced within this person/gamestop and publicly glaze him. To them, I have a question like, are we watching the same interview? How can anyone watch that interview and then consider it in any way positively or anything like that, like huh, have we watched the same interview? Perhaps some of us at first (like within that HN discussion) were/are trying to justify as if it is some massive brain effort by gamestop or anything and its a 5d chess move ,but to me, this interview showed me what the reality is actually. | | |
| ▲ | jml7c5 31 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | >To them, I have a question like, are we watching the same interview? How can anyone watch that interview and then consider it in any way positively or anything like that, like huh, have we watched the same interview? It all comes down to a belief in "trolling". Once you assume that your chosen individual might act stupid on purpose, you lose the ability to discern between actual stupidity and fake stupidity. GameStop enthusiasts see that interview and assume Cohen is mocking the interviewers as a show of intentional disrespect. They think he's not actually clueless, just trolling. Unfortunately, this sort of belief is self-reinforcing. Once you get over the hurdle of believing in trolling the first time, the next instance seems completely plausible. Every time it happens, you become more convinced that the person engages in a pattern of trolling — after all, you've seen it so many times! You don't realize that the source of your belief is not accumulated independent evidence, but a chain that rests on a single link. | |
| ▲ | flyingcircus3 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is because the community around Gamestop is radicalized by the exact same grievance culture behind the MAGA movement. It even started conveniently in January of 2021, at a point of MAGA's seeming obsolescence. The adherents of this movement have already accepted the final result as guaranteed, and literally every piece of news the world over gets interpreted through the lens of this eventuality that Gamestock's stock price will explode, making them all millionaires and billionaires. Just like MAGA, the community is full of people whose main role is to delegitimize negative news, and reframe it all as instead proof that the mother of all short squeezes is imminent. Today is the perfect day to see this playing out on their subreddits. | | |
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| ▲ | Apocryphon 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Imagine if the Tesla/X empire went for GME next. |
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| ▲ | SwellJoe 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Both are meme stocks, wildly overvalued according to any accounting of fundamentals, so I guess it'd be fitting. |
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