I feel like the core of the problem is that we don't as consumers have hardly any control over the software we run on our devices. People can and have written less addictive YouTube, Reddit, etc clients, but Google Play and Apple App Store don't allow them.

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spockz 2 days ago | parent [-]

Google Play and Apple App Store don’t allow them because they are in breach with the YouTube service policy. If Google changed that policy the app stores would allow those apps.

Otherwise your point completely stands of course!

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joshlemer a day ago | parent [-]

I guess I don't really get why is Apple App Store forced to disallow apps which violate the YouTube service policy? Surely that is an issue for the app developer and YouTube to sort out, why is the Apple App Store assuming an enforcement position?

And also it's one thing that the App Store doesn't allow YouTube Service Policy violators, but then it's a big issue that they don't allow sideloaded apps. It's only this locking down of our devices so they must go through the App Store that is indirectly enabling YouTube to have a shitty addictive UX IMO. If people had more control, YouTube would have to worry about not being too crappy or else other apps might take market share. Now that they have us all locked in thanks to App Store, they can extract much more attention/money from us than otherwise.

	▲	spockz a day ago \| parent [-]
		As far as I understand is that when you sign up for publishing the app you say something about having the rights to do with the app what you are doing. If then you publish an app “abusing” the YouTube service, Google will probably find it rather quickly, especially once the app gets traction, and submit a report to Apple with the claim that the app is nefarious. AFAICT, there are no up front blockers to uploading an app that uses YouTube.