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bitpush 8 hours ago

> I'm one of those crazy ones who likes to own something they purchased, and not have the company watch everything I do with hardware I paid for.

What phone and laptop does Jeff use?

dacops 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"Likes to own" implies "cannot always own".

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

john_strinlai 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

does his phone/laptop choice detract from the points being made in the post regarding bambu?

FlyingAvatar 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From watching his videos, he's an Apple guy for his personal devices, though his server infrastructure (and also the bulk of the devices he reviews and experiments with ) are Linux machines.

nekusar 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, cause the current linux phone ecosystem is a wasteland.

Pine sucked all the oxygen out of the environment, with a shit dead-on-arrival product. Pinephone doent even work as a bloody phone.

Other Linux phones are 2-3 generations old, and priced at $700 or so.

So, we're stuck with Apple or Google. Not great choices either way.

packetlost 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm guessing a Pixel with GrapheneOS

KingOfCoders 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And I'm guessing an iPhone.

Internet influencers - nothing against this one, I like his videos, I think I got JetKVM because of one video - are a persona which is different from their person. They sell something in their videos and do things in videos that are different from their true self. Videos are primarily done to drive more subscribers. I don't dispute that he might be an exception but he has >1M subscribers which makes being authentic and not driven by audience difficult.

Take LTT as an extreme example.

[Edit] I'm not judging Jeff or saying this is good or bad.

epcoa 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I use Linux as a daily driver, write and modify kernel (mainline and out of tree) and userspace drivers, have reverse engineered various things. ie beyond most of the HN peanut gallery. That said I use an iPhone because I have a day job and nothing “open” is worth dealing with.

KingOfCoders 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I use Linux as a daily driver, using it on servers since 1991 (or 92 whenever boot.tgz/root.tgz was released), have been coding for 45 years, started several successful open source projects, wrote a full text search engine in Java in the 90s before there was Lucene, wrote the core Wiki markup engine that powered Atlassian Confluence for quite some time, because Mike asked me. That said I use a Google Pixel because - after decades of using Apple (from first iBook G3, first MacBook, first iPhone, first iPod, iPod nano, first iPad, Xserve, Xsan, iMac Pro and on and on an on) I left the Apple ecosystem when Steve died - to me Apple feels too constraining.

Not sure what that exchange was for, but I like it!

PS: Not a native speaker, don't know what "HN peanut gallery" means. But I like peanuts, though I think Peanuts are overrated. Though sometimes our dog looks like Snoopy, when her ears are flying.

epcoa 7 hours ago | parent [-]

So, this wasn’t a dick sizing contest about who contributes to open source. The point is there is a certain extent I will go to maintain my ideals of using certain systems and it is more than average even for here (the peanut gallery), and on par with the influencer in question, ie I can relate regardless of their “inauthentic” persona. Most people, even those that consider themselves “enthusiasts”, simply won’t go to the effort of reverse engineering or writing drivers - if it were the case there would be a much larger ecosystem of high quality drivers and a larger pool of contributors. I am in that minority and still use an iPhone, and I don’t have a subscriber count.

2. A google pixel isn’t meaningfully more open than an iPhone (I depend on functionality that would be unavailable if rooted). This wasn’t meant to be an iPhone vs android debate. For the purposes of this discussion they are equivalent.

KingOfCoders 7 hours ago | parent [-]

"inauthentic" is your judgement based on your values. My post was not about judgement, just about explaining what I think happens with influencers. Your reply was based on your perception and assumptions, not on what I said it feels. Most influencers use Apple if using Graphene doesn't drive subscribers.

"reverse engineering or writing drivers"

When I encountered Linux I was already too old to be interested in that kind of things. But I did disassemble C/PM code. I was interested in blue boxing, cracking of games, infinite life reverse engineering and hacking in the 80s though.

"For the purposes of this discussion they are equivalent."

Again it feels like you made some assumptions about me and what I wanted to say which are just that, assumptions.

epcoa 7 hours ago | parent [-]

You literally said: “They sell something in their videos and do things in videos that are different from their true self. ”

“Inauthentic” was I still think a close enough reference paraphrase of your statement. Not a value judgement. You even used the word "authentic" in your thesis. And in general I wouldn’t necessarily disagree but I don’t see how it is necessarily related to their choice of personal devices. An internet celeb probably doesn’t use GrapheneOS because the limitations sucks for most people, not because of some calculated subscriber count play.

If you use an unrooted Pixel, why are we even having this conversation, and if not.. well maybe the dude just wants to use a secure wallet.

Regardless of this influencer's "real life" persona I see nothing incongruent about even their "influencer" persona using an iPhone. Therefore I see no relevance to anything in your original comment.

KingOfCoders 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes I did, and you called that "inauthentic" based on your value system. I'm not a native speaker but in German "inauthentic" (unauthentisch) would not be considered a neutral description.

"So, this wasn’t a dick sizing contest"

You can say "I didn't intend this a dick sizing contest" but you can't say "This wasn't a dick sizing contest". Again this is based on your judgement.

lpcvoid 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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subjectsigma 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I like both Jeff and Apple products, but this does seem a pretty ... odd ... thing to say within the context of his audience. A normal person wouldn't bat an eye but the kind of people watching Jeff Geerling videos will probably have some strong opinions about it