Pretty sure candy colored EU paradise even today is discussing on breaking encryption and privacy for its citizens.

I'm posting from the EU.

-In the EU it is a political discussion.

-In the USA, the government buys the data legally from the parties who are allowed to collect it and there are no political discussions.

One of these is obviously better than the other.

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irusensei 2 days ago | parent [-]

> "In the EU, there is a a political discussion about outlawing privacy."

> "In the US, the government is using illegal methods to violate rights granted by the constitution."

Agreed one is obviously better than the other. The EU treats privacy as a privilege granted by the government while the US treats it as a fundamental right.

I'm not a fan of the US gov but I also don't agree with the candy colored view of the EU as an institution that does no wrong and when it does its a "well intended but misguided".

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buellerbueller 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

>Agreed one is obviously better than the other. The EU treats privacy as a privilege granted by the government while the US treats it as a fundamental right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_privacy

https://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/righto...

There is no express constitutional right to generalized "privacy" in the USA and even if there were, the constitution only binds the government, which is allowed to buy data on American citizens collected by 3rd parties.

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snowpid 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

.."the US treats it as a fundamental right."

Not gonna lie, didnt expect on HN to forget this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowden_disclosures

	▲	buellerbueller 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Well, HN has a lot of fascists these days who prefer the snooping.