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xigoi 2 days ago

> Under your definition, Hacker News goes away, too.

It doesn’t have to go away, just switch to chronological sorting.

Analemma_ 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Have you ever browsed by New and seen the firehose of shit which doesn’t make it to the front page? HN sorted by new is effectively useless and you might as well shut the site down at that point.

“Chronological only” might work for something like Twitter where you’re choosing to follow specific individuals to see their posts, it can’t work for curation sites like HN/Reddit.

xigoi 2 days ago | parent [-]

That could be solved by allowing users to filter by score or number of comments.

throwaway902984 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Which would lead to everyone having their own personalized front page? Not controlled by dang so much but still.

xigoi 2 days ago | parent [-]

Not being controlled by the website owner is the point.

throwaway902984 2 days ago | parent [-]

Yeah for sure, I see what you were saying. Changing that part might not achieve the desired effect though is what I was saying. Context dependent on the site here of course, but in a general sense I could see meta et al. being nonplussed by this to a significant extent.

nemothekid 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I think you are just reflexively trying to argue your point without even thinking about it.

30 million tiktoks are posted by day. What do you mean your are going to allow "users to filter". This "regulation" will be trivially defeated by TikTok-Videos LLC uploading videos and TikTok-DataScience, providing the most popular filtering algo.

At the end of the day, many children will simply default to using the best algorithm, and all this regulation helps no one.

shimman 2 days ago | parent [-]

Wow clearly this a problem that can never be solved, better to not regulate these tech giants that have anti-democratic and anti-human beliefs. We're simply too powerless to regulate these entities!

nemothekid a day ago | parent [-]

Yeah, I clearly prefer non-hamfisted regulation under the guise of "protect the children". Half-assed attempts like this are worse than useless.

Just like with GDPR, the tech giants will put their foot on the scale and continue to operate how they fit, and the smaller guys will die under a thousand paper cuts. I'd rather not add more regulation that cements Meta as the sole media platform of the internet.

veeti 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Sorting is not an algorithm?

xigoi 2 days ago | parent [-]

Not what people are talking about when complaining about algorithmic feeds.