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getcrunk 4 hours ago

I think we are at the point where everyone really needs to run each project in its own vm.

Given the recent lpe vulns docker 100% won’t cut it.

And containers were never meant primarily as a security boundary anyways

Gigachad 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

QubesOS had the right idea. You want layers and layers of security, with multiple VMs at the root.

halfcat 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> had the right idea

Is it no longer the right idea?

Gigachad 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean that in the sense that they had the idea way before the wave of rapid linux 0days and supply chain attacks were common. The design they picked has only become more relevant.

omcnoe 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Devcontainers (I know it's not a full VM, but it's most prominent version of this "isolated development environment" concept) wouldn't fully protect you against this. Github credentials are automatically pulled into the container. If you are using other cloud services that need to be accessed within the container, this cred stealer will grab their creds too.

It would limit the blast radius, which at least is an improvement.

9cb14c1ec0 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Or a vm per container, if you insist on containers. I've have a couple of relaxed weeks recently due to running everything on VMs rather than some random Kubernetes service.

einpoklum 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Luckily, projects using more secure language ecosystems like C and C++ are spared this kind of problems :-)

saghm 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No, instead the code that isn't from a dependency is what will cause you to get pwned

eqvinox 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I think you missed the joke/sarcasm there.

saghm 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It's been less than a month since I responded to a comment on a different thread arguing basically the same thing about C/C++ in a serious way. I've long since lost the ability to distinguish.

eqvinox 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Fair, I'm in fact not 100% sure it's a joke. But there's a smiley, that's pushing me to 90%.

Havoc 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The virus fest of the 90s would like a word with you and your C

bpavuk 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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