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afavour 9 hours ago

I'm surprised the number is this low! Queen sold their catalogue for $1.27bn and while RHCP are clearly not on their scale I thought they were pretty high up there, especially given how long they've been active.

Waterluvian 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

All subjective and all that. But I feel like 300M vs. 1.27B is exactly where I would have personally pinned their ratio difference.

To roughly frame it: if we made another golden record, I wouldn’t be surprised if it had 4 Queen songs and 1 RHCP song.

sho_hn 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Same, or worse. Having lived in Europe and Korea I can tell you numerous Queen songs have instant recognizability the world over, but I would say RHCP are a household name mostly in the US, except maybe some older people recognizing Californication as a distinctly 90s happening.

TitaRusell 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Everyone in my country can karaoke bohemian rhapsody- even 11 year old girls.

Not a lot of artists can truly transcend their era like that. Most remain stuck in nostalgia.

amarant 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In Europe it's cheating. Queen is from Europe.

But yeah, Californication is pretty much my only rhcp reference.

Also: what do you mean "older people"? I ain't that old yet! Shakes fist at cloud

bryanrasmussen 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>In Europe it's cheating. Queen is from Europe.

Queen is from one country in Europe, there are many countries in Europe. Anyway following your argument - who do you think is more recognized in Mexico: Queen or RHCP?

amarant 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Lol, not sure if you went through my comment history and already know that I currently live in Mexico, if not, that's a funny coincidence!

It's a lot less clear cut here than in Europe (I'm from Sweden originally), but I do think Queen wins out. I stand by my statement that it's cheating on Europe, but Queen is bigger and better than rhcp no matter how you look at it.

How are they in the states? In the US rhcp has the home field advantage(or cheating as I called it the previous comment), but I kinda think Queen is bigger even so. That said I've never even visited the US so that's just 100% speculation on my part.

bryanrasmussen 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

funny coincidence.

As I have not been in the U.S for a lot of years and don't currently plan on returning I go from what I remember and it was Queen by quite a bit.

Going by one hint as to popularity, Queen is more frequently sampled, I bet most people can think of three or four tracks from Queen that get parts reused all over hip hop, RHCP has basically Give It Away.

asdfasgasdgasdg 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh man, I don't even like Californication. Give me Otherside every day.

esseph 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Californication was 2000. I think a single came out in the summer of 1999 off that album though.

conradfr 7 hours ago | parent [-]

The Californication album was released in 1999, the song Californication as the fourth single was in 2000.

esseph 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Ah the album came out June 8, 1999.

Okay I still don't call that the "90s" :) The album's lifetime was very much the early 2000s!

petre 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Some off the Queen songs are quite catchy and instantly appeal to a large public. They're more of an iconic band. The name of the band is also quite good for their identity.

Californication is a radio tune. There's more to RHCP than that. I won't pretend it's sophisticated like John Coltrane, Nils Petter Molvær or some cult band like The Doors or The Velvet Underground, but it's still something to dive into and listen to carefully if you have the time and inclination. It's also less niche than INXS for instance.

People (outside of Korea too) listen to Black Pink and BTS. Which is totally fine, but the last ones are more proficient on the dance and show side of things. Also, having mentioned Korean girl and boy bands, I find Psy's Gangnam Style song quite satyrical and also very catchy.

vages 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In terms of artistic quality, perhaps. In terms of expected future royalties, I think Queen would be an order of magnitude more valuable than most artists.

vasco 9 hours ago | parent [-]

So its all good since it sold for an order of magnitude more

crispyambulance 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Beyond a certain amount, the actual number becomes meaningless especially for people who already have dynastic wealth not even counting this. It's just what they happened to negotiate.

It's quite a retirement package.

manquer 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It was also a different market in 2024. Much more fluid private credit industry, deal volume was much higher[1] and under very different interest rate regime[2], also generated music was just getting somewhat decent and the risk probably wasn't being factored in to long term value yet.

[1] The Queen deal came at end of series of high profile catalog acquisitions all 500M+ buys - Springsteen, Jackson(half), Bob Dylan.

[2] Interest rate while high was trending down and widely expected to even reach to pre-pandemic levels in few quarters.

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red-iron-pine 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

yeah also surprised.

and as mentioned elsewhere, RHCP is still young enough to crank out a few more albums and tour. Bruce Springsteen kept cranking until his 80s and sold the catalog for $500M

I assume the band is basically tapped out and ready to rest on laurels

indigodaddy 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Bruce is 76

piskov 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Sting reportedly got $300 mil back in 2022