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| ▲ | piva00 21 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | What's the point of listening to purely AI-generated music? I don't mean music that has AI-generated stems as part of an arrangement, where a human actually created it and used AI for bits and pieces, I don't see absolutely any point on listening to purely AI-generated music. The fundamental essence of music is emotion, listening to something generated without emotion has no point, it might sound good but it's hollow and devoid of meaning. I've tried to listen to it, it doesn't even make me "sad", it makes me feel... Nothing. I'm a hobby musician and I incorporated some AI-generated parts in some tracks where I mangled/processed them but my idea was exactly to express how hollow AI-generated music is without the human aspect. | | |
| ▲ | pixel_popping 14 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Many music that are in autoplay on Spotify are AI and I literally didn't know until I checked, the emotion was triggered successfully, I don't really see why only a human could be able to trigger you an emotion? Like if I'm at a party, let say I don't know the artist and everything is AI made and everybody is vibing, then what's "wrong" with it? I think this is more of a musician side which I respect, but a lot of people would simply not care who created it (or what). | | |
| ▲ | piva00 10 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Most people don't care about music, as most don't care about art in general. People like entertainment though. What you are describing is more akin to a form of hollow entertainment through the medium of music, a lot of pop music can also fall into that category (no, not all, there is also a lot of artistry is many pop artists/songs). If AI-generated music triggers emotions on you then keep consuming it but knowing that it's a hollow form of the art, there's no one on the other side communicating with you, it's basically like having a conversation with a chatbot, it might sound human but you know that there's no one on the other side listening to you. AI music is the other way: there's no one on the other side telling you a story, or a feeling they went through, it's just a mimesis of it. |
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| ▲ | cdrnsf an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I have. It's overly polished, formulaic and dull. It's devoid of any of the qualities that make music interesting. There's nothing a human is trying to communicate. Perhaps it could be used as elevator or hold music. | |
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| ▲ | pixelpoet an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I agree, it's shockingly good these days; we can argue about morality etc, fine, but burying one's head in the sand and claiming it's bad puts you at odds with reality, which isn't a good place to be. It's pretty silly that so many people take as an axiom that the human brain basically has a monopoly on certain patterns of electrical signals, and have semi-religious beliefs that this will always be the case. | | |
| ▲ | unconed 29 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It's not that AI can't convince a novice that what comes out is passible. It's that experts in a field generally agree that what comes out is insidiously hollow garbage. This isn't a "semi-religious" belief. It's linear token soup and diffusion bakes running headfirst into actual expertise, second and third order effects, refined skill and taste, and so on. If you actually want to see civilization advance, you cannot rely on machines that merely mash up existing intellectual output while pretending to have expertise. We already had that in the form of art school avant-gardism. AI is just style transfer of that, with corporate sycophancy and valley hyperbole as a veneer. | | |
| ▲ | pixel_popping 11 minutes ago | parent [-] | | But you really believe it will stay that way? What do you think models will be 10 years from now? (not only models, we must include processes and tools in it) - developers were thinking this until recently there is some sort of sudden switch where "shit, it's good enough" and then pass this in a 50x loop and suddenly it becomes "shit, it's actually great" which proves it's a matter of time imo before it's not hollow garbage but actually innovative and expert in its field. | | |
| ▲ | cdrnsf 3 minutes ago | parent [-] | | If it's generated by a model, I would avoid listening to it. Much like I'd void a visual or video generated by a model. |
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