Do we want to be distracted by sewing shirts and writing Python scripts when the hardware can do the math for us?

Programmers (and other workers but this a tech centric forum) need to start to accept that programming was a necessary evil of the before times. We didn't have the theories. We didn't have the manufacturing techniques.

Before hardware was powerful enough to run models on a laptop we needed all that hand crafted custom state management to avoid immediate resource exhaustion. Or to hide the deficiencies of the chips of the day.

For all the appeals of tech workers to a lean into a high tech life, programming as humans did in the before times seems pretty outdated. Bring back rotary phones too, I guess.

If we don't have jobs we are free to:

Take up arms against an exploitative political and owner class minority.

Make sure grandma and the kids are ok. Everyone has enough to eat?

Free the sweatshop kids we exploit without giving them a choice of "the mines" or college, from obligations to our own meat suits

???? What else?

Whole lot of job culture too was just busy work to satisfy the beliefs of they who are generationally churning out of life. Bye grandpa; thanks for zero assurances but tons of obligations; you won't be missed!

Elon and such are not an immutable constant of the universe. Few more years and he'll be Mitch McConnelling out on TV. Especially with all the drug abuse.

Everyone under 50 needs to prepare for the future not LARP the past.

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jklinger410 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why don't you show us how AI will not create abject poverty?

How are we not going to be begging whoever controls chip fabs and electrical plants for compute tokens? HOW!? EXPLAIN IT.

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Sh0000reZ 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Settle down, toddler.

I am meeting with my state legislators this week to, among other things, discuss how big tech should be on the same hook as the food industry who have to label their products in the open.

How all the auto standards are openly legislated, AI standards should be as well. It's just electrical physics not magic.

How like the government has to release laws, big tech should have to release all code, guiding theoretical principles, training and development environments and attest that is what they loaded on those servers.

Use their tools against them; they have the government in their cornering giving them handouts. Go get yours.

You all came up in a society that afforded zero assurances this whole time. Rather than idle about jerking off the American ego perhaps you should have listened to everyone saying this was coming a decade ago. Two decades ago. 4 decades ago.

I have zero respect for my fellow Americans. Willfully ignorant and willingly exploited serfs. Forget I said anything; you all didn't do the political action work to put me on the hook for your healthcare so thoughts and prayers, HNers.

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whatshisface an hour ago | parent | next [-]

How would improved standards and reliability make the AI alternative to white collar jobs less appealing?

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jklinger410 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> you all didn't do the political action work to put me on the hook for your healthcare so thoughts and prayers, HNers.

Ah so your answer is AI will cause most people to live in abject poverty. Good talk.

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JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Settle down, toddler

Please don’t do this.

	▲	Sh0000reZ an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I am not going to be "yelled at" as is the common social interpretation of ALL CAPS What is this? The NBA? You want people to stick to social norms, call it both ways.

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Sh0000reZ an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From what I can find online there is $12 billion in mortgages outstanding in the US[1]

ICE has an $80 billion budget.

Demand Congress pay off mortgages rather than hand Leon Skum tens of billions.

There you go. Stability.

[1] https://www.fhfa.gov/data/dashboard/nmdb-outstanding-residen...

	▲	HanayamaTriplet 42 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		That says $12,000 billion, not $12 billion. (Aside from the question of paying off mortgages being a good idea or not.)

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pesus 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How am I going to do any of that when I can't pay the bills and become homeless? That's what actually happens when you don't have jobs.

	▲	Sh0000reZ 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		At this point money is essentially a social construct. None of the billionaires have a Scrooge McDuck vault full of gold coins. Think ST:TNG; automation makes enough stuff. Why worry about money? So focus on political action then; log off this VC funded freebie intended to ameliorate your feelings about the rich owners and operators of this site, and do like they do; tell government to make things right by you or we replace government. You think PG is sitting on the sidelines letting Congress figure out themselves? He's putting his thumb on the scale through his actions through social networking with politicians. Gotta leave the basement and do the work Americans are heavily propagandized and naive af. So exhausted by educated morons.