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phyzix5761 4 hours ago

I think the idea of being an employee is fundamentally changing. Not saying its good or bad but it's shifting to a more entrepreneurial phase where people have to step out of their 9 to 5s and find ways to deliver value that others want to pay for.

We saw this pre-ai with uber and door dash. I think as AI automation dies down and most companies are competing at a near optimal level with the new tools we'll need humans again in more traditional roles to build the next generation of innovations. And then the whole cycle will repeat.

vips7L 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

How the hell is uber or door dash entrepreneurial?

mancerayder 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's a lot of SV-speak. How exactly do people step into an entrepreneurial phase? They're at work in corporate settings with fixed defined roles. Most workplaces are not many-hatted-donning startup environments, but restricted roles where there are deliverables, deadlines, meetings, etc. Which leaves out of hours for "entrepreneurship" whatever that is.

Github project work on the weekends? That's not possible for most people in their mature/family years (or shouldn't be necessary - what about living life??)

ProfessorLayton 4 minutes ago | parent [-]

>That's a lot of SV-speak. How exactly do people step into an entrepreneurial phase?

Almost half of U.S. employment is from small businesses (250 or less employees). That's means there's a lot of entrepreneurship happening already. I have lots of family running their own small businesses (trades), and it's a lot of work, and doesn't pay as well as a cushy corporate job, but what I'm trying to say is lots of people can and do start their own enterprise.

Yes, lots of them will fail at running their own business, but it's not like corporate jobs are getting any safer either.

lowmagnet 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Uber and Doordash are both examples of abusing workers and their resources to externalize costs on the worker.

phyzix5761 2 hours ago | parent [-]

What about people who have been out of work for a year and all they can do right now is deliver for Uber and Doordash so they can make rent and put some food on the table?

Is it ideal working conditions? No, but its better than nothing, you can set your own hours, and you can leave when the next opportunity comes.

RealityVoid 2 hours ago | parent [-]

His point is that it's not entrepreneurship, it's employment.

RealityVoid 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> We saw this pre-ai with uber and door dash.

Oh, yeah? Did the Uber drivers and door dashers accrue the surplus value?