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repelsteeltje 3 hours ago

This. Giving markets free reign, usually doesn't result in alignment with long term best interests or political objectives.

It took years of activism and voting with our money to get banks, pension funds and similar institutions to stop funding cluster munitions, land mines, nukes, oil, tabacco. Now big tech and some AI companies are on the radar.

nradov 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

Land mines and cluster munitions have been essential for Ukraine to defend itself against the Russian invasion. Several other European countries including Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland have recently withdrawn from the Anti-Personnel Mine Ban Treaty. It's cheap and easy to for activists to pretend to be morally superior when they're sitting safely behind computers and don't have to deal with real world consequences.

https://apnews.com/article/poland-land-mines-ottawa-conventi...

ffsm8 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

Urm, that they're invaluable in an active warzone is unquestionable.

The issue with this tech is that they - at least historically - didn't have an expiration date. So if that war ends and you let your children play in the woods... Maybe occasionally one won't be coming back anymore.

That's the reason why they got a bad image. Because that's literally what happened post ww2 - for decades.

Maybe nowadays they could built them with a forced timer for exploding - if they did, great! If not, your descendants may consider you insane for that opinion in a few decades

nradov 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

So then we agree that it's morally positive for European investors to put money into companies developing advanced land mines.

As for descendants, well the people killed by Russian attacks won't have any more descendants. So that point is kind of moot.