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Hackbraten 3 hours ago

Let them know. Write a letter to the CEO. And vote with your wallet and switch banks if you can. There's always a bank willing to offer you a non-app 2FA scheme.

gorgolo an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Banks don’t do this because of profit. They do it because of decades of laws pushing in this direction. Anti-money laundering, know your customer, digitalised currency, abandoning cash, preventing tax evasion etc… it’s been getting more extensive over time.

Hackbraten 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

None of the things you mentioned inherently require the user to own (and babysit) an expensive general-purpose computing device produced by tracking-obsessed adtech giants and with software obsolescence built into the product.

brabel an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you think banks are using attestation gratuitously? It helps prevent a lot of fraud. You are opposing something that saves people’s savings every day just because you think it takes “freedom” away from a few hobbyists. Do you even have a phone that does not support hardware attestation or is all this posturing about something hypothetical?

Hackbraten 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Do you think banks are using attestation gratuitously?

What I'm claiming is that banks have the freedom of offering their customers 2FA other than smartphone apps.

> Do you even have a phone that does not support hardware attestation or is all this posturing about something hypothetical?

All the phones I own, including my daily driver, run some flavor of Debian. None of them support hardware attestation.

I'm in Europe, bound by PSD2, and own a couple of cheap, certified chip-and-TAN devices so I can do banking.