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giobox 10 hours ago

> they don't have a used by date

For quite a lot of use cases, the current systems arguably do get worse over time if not continually updated. The knowledge cutoff date will start to hurt more and more as the weights age in a hypothetical scenario where you are stuck with them forever.

Coding, one of the most popular usescases today, would not be great if it say only understood java to a version from years ago etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_cutoff

throwyawayyyy 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

One solution is not to advance anything of course. I'm not even joking, is there going to be a successor to React? I suspect not, with the vast amount of training data for React now, it's going to look silly to move to something else with less support. What is the last new popular programming language, rust? Will there be another one? I suspect not. Same reasoning. The irony of all this AI acceleration talk is it'll work best if we don't accelerate the underlying tech at all.

WarmWash 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There probably won't be new stuff so much as trends in how stuff is done, and updates around optimizing those trends.

jvm___ 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Will programming languages evolve into less human oriented written code and more just calls to a trusted AI.

Or will human readable code be less and less of a thing as AI learns it's own, more terse language to talk to other AI's.

digitaltrees 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes. I am seeing a big push to use vanilla js for single file html apps that are easy to build, deploy and distribute because they have no build step. I could see component libraries emerging that make it easier build from chat interfaces with less ceremony

byzantinegene 5 hours ago | parent [-]

i'm not sure the tradeoff in code readability is worth it as of now.

hadlock 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Name/post content combo on point

Spooky23 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Alot of the language work is scratching the itch of engineers and developers. I think you’re correct and react is the new COBOL.

apsurd 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Humans are notoriously bad at predicting the future. Toward that end, your prediction is laughable. React is the end all be all of UI… lol

melagonster 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Programmers won't be allow to exist in future. Vibe coding is the final resolution people can apply.

tcp_handshaker 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You could learn how to code...a whole generation did it before...

rrvsh 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nobody is unaware of the knowledge cutoff, and sharing the Wikipedia article is not helping anyone. Your point is easily rebutted by taking whatever open weights/source model has an outdated cutoff and training or fine tuning it on more data, which is again always going to be viable given a modicum of compute

mrtesthah 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Coding, one of the most popular uses cases today, would not be great if it say only understood java to a version from years ago etc.

This LLM trained only and entirely on pre-1930s texts was able to code Python programs when given only a short example:

https://talkie-lm.com/introducing-talkie

nullc 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Small models are more useful for "doing stuff" than "knowing stuff" to begin with. Add in an agentic harness and a small model can happily read more current information on demand (including from e.g. a local wikipedia snapshot).