Out of curiosity. How can you explain to a Gen z fresh graduate with 50k in student loans, 5 dollar gasoline (and rising), no healthcare, housing prices at an all time high, and competing with their entire age group for the honor of holding multiple minimum wage jobs that are below the survivability wage that they should feel a collective sense of achievement? UBI isn't coming and we have multiple individuals who own measurable percentages of all of the worlds wealth. Those same people are investing heavily in automating all work these young people could hope to provide while waxing poetic about changing laws and owning media companies with cold hard cash.

It's not an anomalous sense of cynicism, hundreds of thousands of people are looking at their options and feeling hopeless. I'm glad I am not in that camp. The reason I'm not is because I was born sooner than they were. I don't blame them at all, it's looking a lot like the generation after them is cannon fodder if things trend the way they are now.

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solenoid0937 an hour ago | parent [-]

> UBI isn't coming

I would tell them this is the problem to fix. Taking your anger out on AI is the most shortsighted thing. When faced with a powerful new capability, disavowing the capability instead of enabling society to leverage it is absurd.

AI is fundamentally the automation of labor, and we can all see the incredible fruits we all reap from similar past leaps in capability.

Structure your society for a post-labor world. Don't halt the progress that has dramatically improved the human condition. To do so is a disservice to the species and all future humans - concretely, your own loved ones and especially your children.

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justonepost2 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Quit your job if you believe this. After all your salary is holding back the glorious future!!

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arvid-lind an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Don't halt the progress that has dramatically improved the human condition.

You clearly accept this as Progress, but isn't the core debate here that it doesn't improve life for humans?

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solenoid0937 an hour ago | parent [-]

You can't say a technology isn't improving life for humans, what, just 4 years into the introduction of the technology? That is not even the blink of an eye.

Does literally no one look at things from a historical perspective? The history of automation is right there on the Internet, for you to peruse at will.

	▲	danaris 6 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		If a technology is improving life for a handful of people (that you happen to be part of) but making it measurably worse for vastly more people can you really say that that technology is "improving life for humans"?
	▲	arvid-lind an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		What makes you so confident that it is improving life for humans? Are you seeing any specific signs yet?

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2ndorderthought an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't have anger against AI. I am a disgusted by the companies rolling it out.

UBI also won't fix things. A post ai world that the us tech ceos want us to imagine is not a utopia. The us manufacturers almost nothing on the world scale. Our biggest contributors to the world economy were things like farm goods(which are in peril), fuel (which most countries are trying to phase out for environmental and recent geopolitical issues), software which will be commoditized through AI. Anything the us can manufacture China can do better, cheaper, and faster. It's not been in our culture for decades, and our infrastructure is shoddy.and will be shoddier once data centers spin up and more wealth is concentrated to people who do not pay any taxes.

GenZ and those coming after have no chance at a sustainable life if the billionaires get what they are asking for. Also in a capitalist society asking them to sacrifice their lives for the good of others is hilarious. Especially if there is no foreseeable good to come after.