| ▲ | ecto 5 hours ago | |||||||
Readers may enjoy my lisp, Loon, which takes heavy inspiration from Rust https://loonlang.com/guide/ownership | ||||||||
| ▲ | imachine1980_ 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
How does ownership work within the Lisp tree structure?, What is the difference between ownership on this setting and ARC? | ||||||||
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| ▲ | quotemstr 19 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
I like the ubiquitous type inference. It reminds me a bit of ELSA for Emacs Lisp: https://github.com/emacs-elsa/Elsa. In particular, type aware macros have been on my wishlist forever: there's no good reason I shouldn't be able to write, e.g. an elisp or CL/SBCL compiler-macro that specializes an operation based on its inferred type. In normal lisps, it's hard to get even the declared types. That said, I wish that part of Loon were less coupled to the allocation model though. What made you opt for mandatory manual memory management in an otherwise high-level language? And effects? There are two things common in language design that, honestly, strike me as unnecessary: 1. manual allocation and lifetime stacking, and 2. algebraic effects. On 1: I think we often conflate the benefits of Rust-style mutability-xor-aliased reference discipline with the benefits of using literal malloc and free. You can achieve the former without necessitating the latter, and I think it leads to a nicer language experience. It's not just true that GC "comes with latency spikes, higher memory usage, and unpredictable pauses" in any meaningful way with modern implementations of the concept. If anything, it leads to more consistent latency (no synchronous Drop of huge trees at unpredictable times) and better memory use (because good GCs use compressed pointers and compaction). On 2: I get non-algebraic effects for delimited continuations. But lately I've seen people using non-flow-magical effects for everything. If you need to talk to a database, pick a database interface and pass an object implementing the interface to the code that needs it. Effects do basically the same thing, but implicitly. | ||||||||
| ▲ | kibwen 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
Agreed, a Lisp built around the concept of ownership is much more interesting than just a way to write Rust via S-expressions. | ||||||||
| ▲ | akch 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
That page is beautiful! What ssg / theme are you using to build it? | ||||||||
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| ▲ | thatxliner an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
Honestly, that's very cool That was basically my intent with this project, but I took the laziest way to get there lol | ||||||||