| ▲ | tensor 5 hours ago |
| These sorts of laws have repeatedly failed to pass in Europe due to people protesting. The government just keeps coming back and trying again it seems. What makes you think French citizens don’t care? |
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| ▲ | HerbManic 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I do think they care but you hit on a point. Governments just keep trying to force this and eventually wear down the resistance to it. They can try repeatedly as it only has to work once. |
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| ▲ | tensor 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah, this feels like an exploit used by many governments these days. You see the same thing in the US where the Republicans just keep filing appeals or lawsuits until they eventually get what they want. Over and over and over and over. Governments should probably adopt some sort of "retry" limit for these things. Good luck getting that passed though I suppose. | | |
| ▲ | vkou 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | That would just be abused by people who want to permanently enshrine a bad status quo. They'll file X really shitty, bad faith challenges, and when they all fail, everyone will be permanently stuck with a bad thing. Imagine if women's suffrage failed 5 times, and hey, guess we'll never get it, 5 times is the limit. |
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| ▲ | novok 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's because it doesn't break the political and financial careers of the people who do in the civil service and the politicians. Once it does, you'll see it is not repeated. Prop 13 in California is an amazing example of this, known as a third rail political issue because it "kills" the politicians who attack it directly. It doesn't even approach even getting put up as a proposition or bill directly. It has a tight feedback loop because the most mobilized voting class, the olds, feel it immediately and the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association mobilizes immediately also. So they go for it on the sides, for things like commercial property, or complicated to understand inheritance and so on. So if you really want to fight back and be effective, you have to (politically) destroy the careers of those who do. | | |
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| ▲ | userbinator 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Maybe it's time for France to reconsider its relationship with the EU. |
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| ▲ | Georgelemental 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The French people did consider that, in the referendum on Maastricht. The politicians ignored the results | |
| ▲ | palata 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The French people typically elect far-right politicians to represent them at the EU level, so... | | |
| ▲ | userbinator 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's not about left or right, but up and down. | | |
| ▲ | tardedmeme 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Which are also known as right and left, respectively. What, did you think right and left were arbitrary? The words are arbitrary, but the meanings are not. They correlate quite strongly with the material interests of the up and down. | | |
| ▲ | novok 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Stalin & Mao would like to have a word with you. | | |
| ▲ | tardedmeme 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | ... okay? I thought they were dead. What about the entire rest of the world that is left or right. We're not stuck between a choice of Staln (left), and Htler (right) - there are more reasonable people in the world, even more reasonable politicians. |
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| ▲ | 0dayz 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That makes little sense if you know some basic political science, the EU is comprised of different political interest groups just like your country is. Unless you literally belive everyone in the EU belive the exact same thing and there's zero disagreements what do ever. | | |
| ▲ | shakow 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Kind of, at least in France? Our privacy-nefarious laws have been passed by both left- and right-leaning governments. It seems that if there is something the elite agrees upon, it is that the plebeians should be kept in check. |
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| ▲ | 0dayz 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is France pushing this onto themselves? |
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