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hamdingers 8 hours ago

It is curious how successful AI developers have been in trying to redefine "open source" as "the binary is free to download"

echelon 8 hours ago | parent [-]

The OSI is garbage, and "open source" outside of the most viral licenses is too.

I'll go further and say that it accelerated getting us into this mess we're in today.

The OSI is owned and controlled by the tech titan hyperscalers who benefit from free labor.

Useful "open source software" always gets encrusted by the big titans that then build means to control the tech, and then the means to control us. And just to rub salt in the wounds, they rarely compensate the original authors.

Android is Linux, right? Then why can't we install our own software? Why does it spy on us? Open source is so great, right?

95% of humans will never own a phone that gives them freedom. And we enabled that.

Everything we as tech people own is also getting locked down. We're going to have to start providing our state ID to access the internet soon.

But OMG, Year of Linux on the Desktop 2012!!12

Pretty soon you won't even be able to use your Linux. Everything will be attested.

Open source hasn't stopped power from accruing to the titans. It's accelerated their domination.

People rush to defend Google and Amazon when you criticize how they profit off of Redis, Elasticsearch, etc. The teams that build the tech aren't becoming wealthy, and most of the bytes flowing through those systems are doing so behind closed source AWS/GCP/Azure offerings.

These companies then use their insane reach to tax everything that moves. Google owns 92% (yes, 92%!) of URL bars and they tax every search, especially searches for other companies' trademarks. They do even better - they turn it into a bidding war. Almost nothing that exists in the world today can make it to you without being taxed by them.

If they don't like your content, you just disappear.

Mobile platforms have never been ours. We can't install what we want. We're soon going to be locked at the firmware level to just Google and Apple and forced to use their adblocking-free, tracker-enabled "browsers" (1984 telescreens). Any competition can't get started due to the massive scale required, meanwhile Apple and Google tax everything at 30% and start correlating everything you do, everyone you talk to, everywhere you go in their panopticon.

"Open source" was wool pulled over our eyes so that we happily built, supported, and enabled this.

Open source should be replaced with "our proletariat users and small businesses can have this for free, but businesses listed on any stock exchange cannot commercialize this ever unless they pay out the nose for it".

"Source available" / shareware is peak. Give your users the thing, and the means to maintain it after you're gone, but tell Google et al. to go away.

"Fuck you, pay me" as the artists frequently say.

But also, let's stop giving the Death Star free labor.

(edit: I'd love a feedback sampling of the heavy downvotes. OSI purists? Goog employees? Surely MIT/BSD fans and not anyone who follows Stallman.)

xtracto 7 hours ago | parent [-]

>Pretty soon you won't even be able to use your Linux. Everything will be attested.

I want to rescue this snippet.

Few of us remember the "fight" and discussions that happened when Firefox first pondered the idea of allowing encrypted video on the platform. Same with Linux. This was when The powers that be forced Netflix and other video distributors to introduce that opaque tech in the web. The same thing happened with DeCSS and Linux DVD playing; but that generation was a bit more... revel.

But we as a society are indeed slowly and steadily giving away our rights of many, for the rights of few cartels.

It's been a sad journey to see for someone born in the early 80s.

echelon 7 hours ago | parent [-]

> But we as a society are indeed slowly and steadily giving away our rights of many, for the rights of few cartels.

Increasing geopolitical multi-polarity may force big tech to give up ground. The EU and ASEAN in particular should be hitting Google et al. with the regulatory hammer.

When we get clearer heads back in power (Lina Khan was great, but moved much too slow), they ought to carve the tech cos into Baby Bells. Horizontally so they have to compete with themselves.

> It's been a sad journey to see for someone born in the early 80s.

The dream of the open web, privacy, freedom of speech, and freedom of computing is being killed by the oligarchy. And they convinced us the progressive thing to do was to give them our labor - they hung us with it.

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